Traded our 2020 Chrysler Pacifica Limited on a 2023 Pacifica Hybrid Pinnacle...
#61
Yeah they’re expensive, this one was $62,500, but with rebates and including the $7,500 I got almost $16,000 off of it, plus the $4,700 in positive equity in the 2020. MSRPs on Chrysler vehicles really don’t mean much…
The 18s don’t make much difference in the ride, the 20s had a lot of sidewall on them. The Pirelli tires I had on the 20s actually absorbed sharp impacts and expansion joints better, this feels more solid and stable mainly because of the weight.
The steering is also way more disconnected which I’m sure has something to do with the hybrid but that contributes to the overall detached luxury car feel.
It also has double paned side glass while the old
one didn’t.
one didn’t.
#62
I agree that weight can make a difference, but usually only if the suspension is not firmer to contract it. Not having sampled a Pacific with 20s, I'll take you at your word that the 20s on your last Pacifica were tolerable, but most of the vehicles that I HAVE sampled hav, to my tastes, rode like s***. In fact, for me, that was a dealbreaker on the Buick Cascada convertible. I liked it, and considered getting one, but its standard 20" rubber simply pounded one's kidneys too much.....easily the worst-riding Buick product I had ever sampled. It felt more like a Mitsubishi Evo LOL.
#63
See? Non-neutral colors aren't so bad.......the world doesn't revolve around white/black/gray/silver. I really miss some of the Teal shades that were offered in the 90s. I can remember when Honda dealers had big markups on new Accords, and even bigger mark-ups on the Teal ones LOL.
No more Federal tax credit on hybrids?....or was that the $7500 you mentioned?
I agree that weight can make a difference, but usually only if the suspension is not firmer to contract it. Not having sampled a Pacific with 20s, I'll take you at your word that the 20s on your last Pacifica were tolerable, but most of the vehicles that I HAVE sampled hav, to my tastes, rode like s***. In fact, for me, that was a dealbreaker on the Buick Cascada convertible. I liked it, and considered getting one, but its standard 20" rubber simply pounded one's kidneys too much.....easily the worst-riding Buick product I had ever sampled. It felt more like a Mitsubishi Evo LOL.
The wheel size isn't what matters, is the amount of sidewall height available. The Pacifica had a lot of sidewall despite the size of the wheels, as do most SUVs etc, so the 20s don't make much difference.
The steering probably feels more disconnected because the tall 60-series sidewalls absorb more of the steering-forces. That's just a simple law of physics. The flip-side, of course, is better bump-absorption as well.
That has been one of the Buick Quiet-Tuning features for some years now.
I also find that things like the door latch mechanisms feel and sound better in this van
#64
I think tesla 240V/48A home chargers take longer time, like 8-12 hours for a "fill up." I guess one needs to plug it in every night unless they don't drive much at all a day. Steve for sure will have to plug in every night if he wants to utilize "gas free" feature for his wife.
haha, great line from planes, trains, and automobiles.
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#66
Here you go... professor bit. It's called JuiceBox home charger. I wasn't talking about superchargers. I know how fast that goes and it's also not recommended routinely.
Last edited by SW17LS; 10-03-23 at 04:02 PM.
#67
You should have at least one or two 220V outlets around the house.....electric dryers and ovens usually run on 220-240V. A 220V (Level-2) outlet will probably reduce the full-charging time from 8 hours down to about 3 or so. If it's an indoor outlet, of course, you might need a heavy-duty extension cord to run it into the garage or outside to the vehicle.
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-03-23 at 09:58 PM.
#68
You should have at least one or two 220V outlets around the house.....electric dryers and ovens usually run on 220-240V. A 220V (Level-2) outlet will probably reduce the full-charging time from 8 hours down to about 3 or so. If it's an indoor outlet, of course, you might need a heavy-duty extension cord to run it into the garage or outside to the vehicle.
My wife told me today she had no choice but to drive it today in gas mode and she was not pleased lol
#69
She's only been running in EV mode a week and she misses it.
Different subject, if I was planning to charge at a relative's house and knowing the wiring is old, I can probably assume the outlet is old too.
This is where things can get tricky IMO.
Many electrical fires happen that never popped the breakers first. All it takes is heat from a resistance drop at poor connectors and contacts whether in the outlet, junction boxes, and breaker box, etc.
Honestly, I'd ask the relative to hook up a clamp meter in ac amps scale and measure what the current pull on the circuit and not exceed that, dryer or etc- unless running new outlet straight from outside panel.
That way you will know you can never be blamed for starting a fire.
Reason why is because there is no way to know the condition of the wiring until it is loaded past what is normally running.
Another words, if the dryer is pulling 15 actual amps according to the meter readings, I'd charge at 15 amps and no more, only because of unknown condition of old wiring and the risk, just ideas.
Last edited by Margate330; 10-03-23 at 10:23 PM.
#70
You should have at least one or two 220V outlets around the house.....electric dryers and ovens usually run on 220-240V. A 220V (Level-2) outlet will probably reduce the full-charging time from 8 hours down to about 3 or so. If it's an indoor outlet, of course, you might need a heavy-duty extension cord to run it into the garage or outside to the vehicle.
That would definitely make pretty much anyone think that EVs/PHEVs are not worth the trouble. Never mind the fact that such cables weigh 75 lbs and cost ! Or right about what it'll cost to pull an independent 240V circuit in the garage where it can be hardwired to the charger. The literal definition of a no-brainer.
Last edited by geko29; 10-04-23 at 05:06 AM.
#71
The more I think about this, the more it makes me laugh--it's just that ridiculous. Even if there were such an outlet near the back door of the house (and not on the second floor), I can just picture Steve or his wife pulling out the stove or the dryer, unplugging it, plugging in an extension cord, then dragging a garden-hose-sized cord out the back door and across the deck so it can be plugged into the charger in the garage.
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#73
These cords are very expensive yes. The 120v plug works fine until we get that done.
As for the outlet being old, as long as it’s pulling less than the breaker it shouldn’t be an issue. The breakers are old but they are quality square D breakers. The house was renovated and improved the panel is just the same old panel.
As for the outlet being old, as long as it’s pulling less than the breaker it shouldn’t be an issue. The breakers are old but they are quality square D breakers. The house was renovated and improved the panel is just the same old panel.
#74
Click the link in my post, I wasn't joking. high current 220V is serious business, and the longer you make the cable, the heaver it needs to be. $500 is about average for a 100' cord. If you don't like the one I chose (first result on Amazon), they have alternatives for $470, $480, $480, $485, and $490, plus one oddball at $420 with a single not-so-glowing review. Here's one that's only 15 feet, but still costs $90. These are nothing like what you'd use for a light or a circular saw.
#75
Yeah some have dryer on second floor, very common in some states. A guy down my street has an extension cord out all the to his driveway to charge his. Maybe he does not want to pay to put one inside his garage. I heard they charge you somewhere near 500 to put one there for you. Is it still cheap charging now?