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My quick take: The Crown Signia is interesting I'd personally argue it's better looking than either the Lexus RX or TX and it has more of a wagon vibe. I think it's going to outsell the Crown (lifted sedan) and I was surprised no MAX powertrain.
The Camry update is fine. I was surprised there was no TRD or Turbo model, but perhaps that will come later.
UPDATE 2
Toyota today confirmed that the 2025 Camry will debut next Tuesday, November 14 at 10 pm ET.
Sometime next week, I'm going to turn this thread into a Camry/Crown Reveal thread where I'll try to embed either Toyota's live stream of the reveal event... OR if I have enough of a cell signal, I might livestream the reveal and/or do a Q&A from the reveal event.
What motors do you think Toyota will offer on the new Camry?
UPDATED
Toyota confirmed today that a Crown SUV is coming to America and debuting next week on November 14. I'm going to an event that I believe will include said debut (plus the Camry, we believe), so please let me know if you have any questions for Toyota or about the vehicle in general that I can try to answer then. Cheers!
Hey, Guys! Toyota has dropped two teaser images in the last week. Last week appeared to be the 2025 Camry. And today's teaser image shows off what appears to be a North American version of the Crown Estate (which could be called the Crown Cross here). We expect them to debut at the LA Auto Show next month.
So this new Crown Estate/Cross would slot in as a two row above the Venza, I take it? Wouldn't that overlap with the NX and even the RX? I'm so confused...
So this new Crown Estate/Cross would slot in as a two row above the Venza, I take it? Wouldn't that overlap with the NX and even the RX? I'm so confused...
I think it's more between RAV 4 and Highlander, but also for the lifted wagon crowd (Subaru).
Also, since Crown seems to be a Toyota-only product, I'm not sure you could call them a Lexus overlap.
Given how lackluster Toyota interior materials are, I'm sure the Crown Estate won't impede Lexus RX buyers. This is really where the Venza should have landed as a semi premium step above RAV4.
How many SUV's and crossovers can Toyota fit in? They look nice, but it's a bit comical the quantity going now. Yet, curiously, I'm sure they will sell every single one.
Is it possible that Toyota might discontinue the smaller Highlander and have this two row Crown Estate as their midsize crossover? Anyone that wants three usable rows is going to want the Grand Highlander now.
This Crown is about the same size as a Highlander but only two rows and much better looking. The Venza and RAV4 are considerably smaller and more compact.
Is it possible that Toyota might discontinue the smaller Highlander and have this two row Crown Estate as their midsize crossover? Anyone that wants three usable rows is going to want the Grand Highlander now.
This Crown is about the same size as a Highlander but only two rows and much better looking. The Venza and RAV4 are considerably smaller and more compact.
that is a good insight … but depends how much bigger the crown estate is vs rav/Venza either way a Toyota hybrid station wagon would be a cool addition to the line up
it’s quite insane the number of models and engine choices Toyota is churning out
Toyota confirmed today that a Crown SUV is coming to America and debuting next week on November 14. I'm going to an event that I believe will include said debut, so please let me know if you have any questions for Toyota or about the vehicle in general that I can try to answer then. Cheers!
10-24-23, 09:19 AM
2025 Camry & Crown Signia SUV Debut (UPDATED)
