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Old 02-26-24, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lagtime
Seeing the torque plate would also make me feel good about the quality of work.
Oh he heats the block to your predicted operating temp as well as uses your hardware preload specs so it's as accurate as possible. It's probably overkill for a lot of these engines tbh but like you said it's feel good stuff for sure
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Old 02-26-24, 01:16 PM
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What is that motor out of? HD commercial truck?
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Old 02-26-24, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Oh he heats the block to your predicted operating temp as well as uses your hardware preload specs so it's as accurate as possible. It's probably overkill for a lot of these engines tbh but like you said it's feel good stuff for sure
My 2J motor was bored & honed with a torque plate using the supplied ARP studs and hardware to to torque it to spec...but no heating the block to operating temp. I would have liked that.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Well considering I know my wife absolutely loathes going to car dealers to test drive cars, we were able to go to each dealer relatively quickly since the Porsche, Audi and Land Rover dealers were in the same city and the BMW and MB dealer were across the street from each other which was about 35 minutes away. We only spent about 5 hours total but it was a long 5 hours because it seems to take forever talking/dealing with dealers.
My wife is the same way, HATES test driving cars.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
What is that motor out of? HD commercial truck?
No, a fast car. While I was there a customer picked up a 7L LS3 built for a twin turbo setup, should make around 1300hp based on his head flow numbers etc...

Stuff like that is part of the reason I chuckle when people on here call 345 inch engines "huge" lol! That's tiny in real engine world, anything under 400 inch is a toy to these guys and 427s are "standard" 572+ is big. Minimum size to play is 300 inch and it better be reving to the moon or be under boost at that size!

Anything smaller is for a daily driver/boring car

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Old 02-26-24, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
My wife is the same way, HATES test driving cars.
It's probably for different reasons, but so do I.

You can't do anything you want, not really. You've got to give me a car for an hour at least away from a salesman. Not with some guy breathing down my neck figuring out how to rook me easiest after the 7 minute drive with them.

Tell her to be more ambivalent since she hates it so much.... lol jk jk... all in good humor.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
No, a fast car. While I was there a customer picked up a 7L LS3 built for a twin turbo setup, should make around 1300hp based on his head flow numbers etc...

Stuff like that is part of the reason I chuckle when people on here call 345 inch engines "huge" lol! That's tiny in real engine world, anything under 400 inch is a toy to these guys and 427s are "standard" 572+ is big
The higher the number the better.
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Old 02-26-24, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
It's probably for different reasons, but so do I.

You can't do anything you want, not really. You've got to give me a car for an hour at least away from a salesman. Not with some guy breathing down my neck figuring out how to rook me easiest after the 7 minute drive with them.
Most car dealers will let you go with the car for a while on your own, just tell them upfront you would like to go out on your own.

Tell her to be more ambivalent since she hates it so much.... lol jk jk... all in good humor.
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Old 02-26-24, 05:14 PM
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Carmax and a few independent dealerships are the ones I've found are more likely to just let you take the car and go for a drive without the salesman.

Anytime I've test driven a car at a dealership associated with a manufacturer, they always send a salesman on the test drive(and usually the salesman drives it off the property and swaps places with you after a bit). I'm not a teenager, I'm a working professional, it's weird. But I'm also not assertive enough to say "I'd prefer to take it by myself", because I always assume that will just make them suspicious of me.



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Old 02-26-24, 05:20 PM
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It depends on the dealer. My local MB they always ride with me. Mercedes in Tysons and in Arlington they just let you take it. All the BMW dealers I have test driven cars at just let me take it, Chrysler/Jeep just let me take it. Nobody ever drives me off the lot.
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Old 02-26-24, 05:27 PM
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We have a partner at my firm who had just driven used Civics for years until he finally felt like treating himself to a nice car. He went to one of the german brand dealerships(I don't remember which one at this point) and they wouldn't give him the time of day. He went back a few hours later in his wife's Mercedes and they were much more attentive to him. He ultimately ended up in an IS300.

I guess they assumed he was a tire kicker when he drove up in a 10 year old Civic.


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There's absolute truth to that, I'm pulling up in an S Class.

Salespeople are really stupid to behave that way though, a lot of the richest people I know drive nondescript and old cars.
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Old 02-26-24, 06:11 PM
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Speaking of Mercedes, I rarely drive it at night.

Another pleasant discovery is that everything is red, the backlighting.

It reminds me of an old BMW interior.





Love how the shifter, whatever gear it’s in, the light is brighter. Deliciously old school. Hard to see here but the “D” is significantly brighter.


I do not recall other Mercedes of that era including W140 and W210s having red backlighting, but I could be wrong. I love it.
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Maybe it’s the picture but I wouldn’t call that red, more yellow?
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That looks pretty yellow to me, reminiscent of my grandparents old W210. I like it though.
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