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Old 03-18-24, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
If it’s mechanical, it can break lol. New, old, whatever.
Yep. Nothing is immune and in my case that's one reason (on top of being "cheap") I prefer older stuff so the support network is fully developed.
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Old 03-18-24, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Z4 or Supra, the car is impressive and BMW’s B58 is a helluva engine. Responds to mods well. Few mods take it over 500hp to wheels I believe the transmission in stock form is good for up to 600hp.

Its definitely on my list of next vehicles I may consider
awesome car and yes fantastic for modding, all toyota had to do was literally not arrange the letters S, U, P, R, and A in exactly that order when naming it and people would even be happy to overlook the whole BMW thing

i'm enough of a MK IV fanboy (at least i've driven one!) that i'd rather see the name die instead of revived at a fraction of its former power
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Old 03-18-24, 06:44 PM
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awesome car and yes fantastic for modding, all toyota had to do was literally not arrange the letters S, U, P, R, and A in exactly that order when naming it and people would even be happy to overlook the whole BMW thing

i'm enough of a MK IV fanboy (at least i've driven one!) that i'd rather see the name die instead of revived at a fraction of its former power
First time a drove a MK4 I was severely underwhelmed, it's just another 90s sports car with the "loose" feel and not nearly as solid or fast as I was lead to believe. Built is better, obviously but stock examples are a lot of hype vs modern cars IMO

Sorta like a C5 vette on paper vs actually driving one. I've had many "don't meet your heros" moments with cars at this point....irony is the ones that people say are overpriced or horrible to own are some of the best I've driven
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Originally Posted by Striker223
First time a drove a MK4 I was severely underwhelmed, it's just another 90s sports car with the "loose" feel and not nearly as solid or fast as I was lead to believe. Built is better, obviously but stock examples are a lot of hype vs modern cars IMO

Sorta like a C5 vette on paper vs actually driving one. I've had many "don't meet your heros" moments with cars at this point....irony is the ones that people say are overpriced or horrible to own are some of the best I've driven
actually driving the car had the opposite effect on me lol

it was a 1994 turbo model and completely stock, based on the published HP numbers i was expecting it to feel a bit faster than my LS with "only" 30 less HP, but when that 2nd turbo finally kicks in at ≈4500 RPM it feels WAY faster! i couldn't believe how much punch that bigger turbo delivers when it spools up, and i loved that the car was clearly set up to be a comfortable grand tourer

by this point i'd already owned the E55 for almost a year but the shove of the 2JZ still seriously impressed me... especially when considered in the context of the early 90s
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Old 03-18-24, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Z4 or Supra, the car is impressive and BMW’s B58 is a helluva engine. Responds to mods well. Few mods take it over 500hp to wheels I believe the transmission in stock form is good for up to 600hp.

Its definitely on my list of next vehicles I may consider

I live BBS LM wheels, they make any car look good to me.

Originally Posted by Striker223
First time a drove a MK4 I was severely underwhelmed, it's just another 90s sports car with the "loose" feel and not nearly as solid or fast as I was lead to believe. Built is better, obviously but stock examples are a lot of hype vs modern cars IMO

Sorta like a C5 vette on paper vs actually driving one. I've had many "don't meet your heros" moments with cars at this point....irony is the ones that people say are overpriced or horrible to own are some of the best I've driven
You can’t compare a current car to a car of that era, a high 12 second car was fast back then but there are so many daily driven cars that are that fast these days. Heck my X7 is that fast. Regardless, I loved my MKIV and regret selling it but you are right, I was a wet noodle with the targa top off (but was awesome driving with it off) and the creaks and rattles were bad. Still one of my favorite cars I’ve owned.
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Old 03-18-24, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I live BBS LM wheels, they make any car look good to me.



You can’t compare a current car to a car of that era, a high 12 second car was fast back then but there are so many daily driven cars that are that fast these days. Heck my X7 is that fast. Regardless, I loved my MKIV and regret selling it but you are right, I was a wet noodle with the targa top off (but was awesome driving with it off) and the creaks and rattles were bad. Still one of my favorite cars I’ve owned.
You know maybe I need to try a coupe....you basically discribed exactly how the one I drove felt lol!

The 2nd turbo hit actually makes it feel more like what it's talked up to be but I was expecting that from zero not it to feel weak until then. The car is also not as well isolated so it may "feel" and sound fast but the rate the sped climbs isn't as insane as I was lead to believe. Sorta like the WS6 I just had in, felt WAY faster than it actually was on timer.

Polar opposite of my cars I guess, mine don't feel like much is happening while going low/high 3 secs to 60 and sub 12s
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New Audi Q6 has been unveiled and like the new 5 Series, it seems interior materials have been dramatically cheapened compared to existing Audi models. A lot more hard plastics like the Q4, including upper sills for the rear seats. Rather disappointing.

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Damn. It's as cheap or worse than the large e-tron SUV inside
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Old 03-18-24, 09:19 PM
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I always get a laugh out of this guy crying about leather seats.
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Old 03-19-24, 05:16 AM
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haha... cloth seats are the new 'luxury'.

also, why does this q6 have a big front overhang vs the macan ev that looks a billion times better?
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I’m most offended by the wall of touchscreens.
the interior looks so dark and depressing.
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Old 03-19-24, 06:42 AM
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I think then Lexus RX has a much better interior design. I think the 500h or 550h+ is a far better buy
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
I always get a laugh out of this guy crying about leather seats.
Haha, I know "animal skin"
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Old 03-19-24, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Haha, I know "animal skin"
I personally like the cloth inserts with the leather outsets. Something different
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Old 03-19-24, 11:31 AM
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Eh, I'm just not a fan of cloth at all, and I question how it will wear
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