General Car Conversation 2024
05-02-24, 04:02 PM
#3557
Lexus Fanatic
It’s a pretty simple car, has the 3D gauges, the power rear seats and the night package. The 21s are a challenge, dealers don’t like to do wheel swaps, and swapping them would be a huge PITA.
Luckily my cars don’t stay dirty for long, they’re washed at least once a week. It’s been a long time since I’ve had a car that was a color…
Im at the dealer in Bethesda just drove another one to make sure I would be happy with it and I would be. Dealing with these car salespeople though it’s so frustrating. I know so much more about buying and financing cars it’s not even funny.
Im at the dealer in Bethesda just drove another one to make sure I would be happy with it and I would be. Dealing with these car salespeople though it’s so frustrating. I know so much more about buying and financing cars it’s not even funny.
Last edited by SW17LS; 05-02-24 at 04:16 PM.
05-02-24, 04:08 PM
#3558
Lexus Champion
05-02-24, 04:30 PM
#3559
Lexus Champion
It’s a pretty simple car, has the 3D gauges, the power rear seats and the night package. The 21s are a challenge, dealers don’t like to do wheel swaps, and swapping them would be a huge PITA.
Luckily my cars don’t stay dirty for long, they’re washed at least once a week. It’s been a long time since I’ve had a car that was a color…
Im at the dealer in Bethesda just drove another one to make sure I would be happy with it and I would be. Dealing with these car salespeople though it’s so frustrating. I know so much more about buying and financing cars it’s not even funny.
Luckily my cars don’t stay dirty for long, they’re washed at least once a week. It’s been a long time since I’ve had a car that was a color…
Im at the dealer in Bethesda just drove another one to make sure I would be happy with it and I would be. Dealing with these car salespeople though it’s so frustrating. I know so much more about buying and financing cars it’s not even funny.
05-02-24, 04:57 PM
#3560
Lexus Fanatic
All the people on the Benz forum want to switch from the 21s to the 20s lol
05-02-24, 04:58 PM
#3561
Lexus Fanatic
Of course theres a silver one on the showroom floor that caught my eye lol
05-02-24, 05:24 PM
#3562
Lexus Test Driver
Time to put your boots up on the manager's desk and light cigar like Clint Eastwood!
Hey, if they want to sell a car they have to get busy.
05-02-24, 05:31 PM
#3563
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by SW17LS
I love how they look but I will go down to 20s (those are 21s), thats the last thing I will throw in at the end of the deal, for them to swap the 21s with 20s.
Dealing with these car salespeople though it’s so frustrating. I know so much more about buying and financing cars it’s not even funny.
The Fitz Way (Fitzgerald dealerships in Montgomery County) is not perfect by any means, particularly in the last few years with the pandemic-shortages. But, overall, in my experience, it has been one of the better ways to shop, particularly if you live in MD, although I've also shopped there with some of my friends from VA. They are definitely more honest than a lot of other places. Perhaps the least-honest place I've seen (although this was some time ago...I can't vouch for today) was the Darcars chain in Silver Spring.
Last edited by mmarshall; 05-02-24 at 05:39 PM.
05-02-24, 06:09 PM
#3564
Lexus Fanatic
Problem is.....often, just when one THINKS they are an auto-buying Guru, dealerships and auto manufacturers keep coming up with different programs and tactics.
05-02-24, 08:04 PM
#3565
Lexus Fanatic
You never know what the future will bring, though. Who in 2019, in their right mind, would even dream of the kind of chaos and outrageous prices we would see in 2020 and 2021? It was like being in a Third World Country during a semi-famine. In fact, when I took delivery of my Encore GX (at a slight discount, in January of 2021), the very same vehicle was going for at least 5K more (and often higher than that) just a few months later. And don't even ask what dealerships wanted for Corvettes LOL. 
Fortunately, we are back into at least a semi-sane world now for vehicle-buying, unless you are looking at American full-sized trucks.
This link on truck-buying has some good information, and relies on actual figures.....it appears to be more than just click-bait.
Fortunately, we are back into at least a semi-sane world now for vehicle-buying, unless you are looking at American full-sized trucks.
This link on truck-buying has some good information, and relies on actual figures.....it appears to be more than just click-bait.
05-02-24, 08:08 PM
#3566
Lexus Fanatic
Well, I'll see you this much......Except for pothole-resistance, Mercedes can probably get away with lower-profile tires on big wheels and still have a comfortable ride, more so than most other manufacturers, because of the excellence of their suspension-designs.
I also noticed that, several years ago, on the Hyundai Genesis sedan models..before the Genesis nameplate split off to become a separate luxury division. It was surprisingly supple even with 45s.
I also noticed that, several years ago, on the Hyundai Genesis sedan models..before the Genesis nameplate split off to become a separate luxury division. It was surprisingly supple even with 45s.
Last edited by mmarshall; 05-02-24 at 08:11 PM.
05-02-24, 08:18 PM
#3568
Lexus Fanatic
You never know what the future will bring, though. Who in 2019, in their right mind, would even dream of the kind of chaos and outrageous prices we would see in 2020 and 2021? It was like being in a Third World Country during a semi-famine. In fact, when I took delivery of my Encore GX (at a slight discount, in January of 2021), the very same vehicle was going for at least 5K more (and often higher than that) just a few months later. And don't even ask what dealerships wanted for Corvettes LOL.
Changing market conditions don’t negate all of the experience that somebody has. Experience is what allows you to navigate a variety of different situations.
05-02-24, 09:12 PM
#3569
As soon as I saw Billy's car posted I had the same thought, wondering if he was still with us. Sorry to hear that...he lived a good life though and he certainly had no doubts about where he was going.
I totally disagree. Pull up somewhere in an LC or an RC-F and see what attention difference there is, most people won't give the RC-F a second look.
Working a deal on this S580...we'll see how it goes. its a 2023 leftover and the lease support is really good, if the numbers work out it should be less than what I am paying. I love the 7 but there isnt anything on the ground that I like, and ordering would be 4-6 months...
$10k lease cash and another $10.7K for AMEX cardholders plus the discount for it being a leftover should equal $30k+ off...
I totally disagree. Pull up somewhere in an LC or an RC-F and see what attention difference there is, most people won't give the RC-F a second look.
Working a deal on this S580...we'll see how it goes. its a 2023 leftover and the lease support is really good, if the numbers work out it should be less than what I am paying. I love the 7 but there isnt anything on the ground that I like, and ordering would be 4-6 months...
$10k lease cash and another $10.7K for AMEX cardholders plus the discount for it being a leftover should equal $30k+ off...
05-02-24, 09:14 PM
#3570
Lexus Test Driver