General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
05-30-24, 11:53 AM
#4204
Lexus Fanatic
Bolt ons are light mods by definition, that's why we bring it up because actual car enthusiasts know what that term means and why it's not a big deal. It's not a build or actual modification as it's as simple as unbolting parts and putting stock components back if you want to revert.
Many do exactly that if they need warranty work or sell the car
Many do exactly that if they need warranty work or sell the car
The absolute most somebody like me might do is install a tune, maybe. Its invisible and easily reversed but even that would void the warranty and I just can't be bothered to even worry about all of that. Plus. none of these cars with just a tune is going to be faster than a Plaid.
05-30-24, 12:08 PM
#4205
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
You are on a huge enthusiast forum here...how many of us modify the engines in our cars? Not many, and the ones that do have older cars that are low value and are out of warranty. People that spend $100,000 on cars like I do generally aren't interested in going in and modifying the engines in their new cars. We also generally are busy professionals who don't have the ability, facilities or time to work on our cars ourselves. Modifying them requires finding speciality shops and paying big sums of money. Also not feasible to have them un-modified for warranty repair.
05-30-24, 12:12 PM
#4206
Lexus Test Driver
I would say this forum is more about luxury enthusiasts who buy expensive cars for the luxury or image. They're enthusiasts because they care a lot about it, and generally know quite a bit about their cars(vs the appliance people buying Camrys and CRV's as transportation).
That's different from a performance enthusiast, though some people are obviously both. Performance enthusiasts might not be interested in the image or amenities of an S-Class or LS500, but they are interest in a high powered RWD sedan.
And people definitely do sink money into modding expensive cars, though I doubt it's a majority of the buyers of those cars.
That's different from a performance enthusiast, though some people are obviously both. Performance enthusiasts might not be interested in the image or amenities of an S-Class or LS500, but they are interest in a high powered RWD sedan.
And people definitely do sink money into modding expensive cars, though I doubt it's a majority of the buyers of those cars.
05-30-24, 12:22 PM
#4207
Lexus Champion
Oh I would have returned it for something else lol
You are on a huge enthusiast forum here...how many of us modify the engines in our cars? Not many, and the ones that do have older cars that are low value and are out of warranty. People that spend $100,000 on cars like I do generally aren't interested in going in and modifying the engines in their new cars. We also generally are busy professionals who don't have the ability, facilities or time to work on our cars ourselves. Modifying them requires finding speciality shops and paying big sums of money. Also not feasible to have them un-modified for warranty repair. If we want a fast car that we can also drive every day and that we don't have to worry about all of this, the Plaid is an incredible car. When you post this about tuning cars do you notice nobody ever agrees with you about it?
The absolute most somebody like me might do is install a tune, maybe. It's invisible and easily reversed but even that would void the warranty and I just can't be bothered to even worry about all of that. Plus. none of these cars with just a tune is going to be faster than a Plaid.
You are on a huge enthusiast forum here...how many of us modify the engines in our cars? Not many, and the ones that do have older cars that are low value and are out of warranty. People that spend $100,000 on cars like I do generally aren't interested in going in and modifying the engines in their new cars. We also generally are busy professionals who don't have the ability, facilities or time to work on our cars ourselves. Modifying them requires finding speciality shops and paying big sums of money. Also not feasible to have them un-modified for warranty repair. If we want a fast car that we can also drive every day and that we don't have to worry about all of this, the Plaid is an incredible car. When you post this about tuning cars do you notice nobody ever agrees with you about it?
The absolute most somebody like me might do is install a tune, maybe. It's invisible and easily reversed but even that would void the warranty and I just can't be bothered to even worry about all of that. Plus. none of these cars with just a tune is going to be faster than a Plaid.
This forum is not enthusiast by any means lol! Just folks who appreciate nice cars and know much more than the general population. So few have even the day one mods like a baseline tune and downpipes it's in extreme contrast to the other forums where nearly everyone has those before they even join
05-30-24, 12:22 PM
#4208
Lexus Champion
I think you're both over-generalizing. Car enthusiasts cover a huge spectrum, all with different goals and priorities. Though I've done some minor mods (CF bits, clutch stop, wheels, lights, wireless charger, various coding) and have more on my list (stage 1 tune, ethanol, midpipe, exhaust controller, audio upgrades), on Bimmerpost I feel like I'm the only M3/M4 owner who doesn't already have >700hp. These are brand-new $90-115k cars that lots of folks are heavily modifying not just under warranty, but sometimes before the break-in service. Just because someone is a busy professional (I am too) doesn't mean they don't have the desire, willingness and means to modify their car.
The Lambo market is insanity, 40% of the cars are TT setups these days to the point it's easier to just buy a built one than a pure stock example
05-30-24, 12:52 PM
#4209
Lexus Fanatic
I think you're both over-generalizing. Car enthusiasts cover a huge spectrum, all with different goals and priorities. Though I've done some minor mods (CF bits, clutch stop, wheels, lights, wireless charger, various coding) and have more on my list (stage 1 tune, ethanol, midpipe, exhaust controller, audio upgrades), on Bimmerpost I feel like I'm the only M3/M4 owner who doesn't already have >700hp. These are brand-new $90-115k cars that lots of folks are heavily modifying not just under warranty, but sometimes before the break-in service. Just because someone is a busy professional (I am too) doesn't mean they don't have the desire, willingness and means to modify their car.
Go to the BMW/Audi forums or the AMG side of Mercedes.....or the LS forums/any domestic forum etc
This forum is not enthusiast by any means lol! Just folks who appreciate nice cars and know much more than the general population. So few have even the day one mods like a baseline tune and downpipes it's in extreme contrast to the other forums where nearly everyone has those before they even join
This forum is not enthusiast by any means lol! Just folks who appreciate nice cars and know much more than the general population. So few have even the day one mods like a baseline tune and downpipes it's in extreme contrast to the other forums where nearly everyone has those before they even join
A Plaid is a car that is aimed at an enthusiast that isn't into modifying their cars...they want an amazingly fast car out of the box. I would buy a Plaid long before I would ever modify any of my cars.
05-30-24, 01:09 PM
#4210
Lexus Fanatic
Oh I would have returned it for something else lol
You are on a huge enthusiast forum here...how many of us modify the engines in our cars? Not many, and the ones that do have older cars that are low value and are out of warranty. People that spend $100,000 on cars like I do generally aren't interested in going in and modifying the engines in their new cars. We also generally are busy professionals who don't have the ability, facilities or time to work on our cars ourselves. Modifying them requires finding speciality shops and paying big sums of money. Also not feasible to have them un-modified for warranty repair. If we want a fast car that we can also drive every day and that we don't have to worry about all of this, the Plaid is an incredible car. When you post this about tuning cars do you notice nobody ever agrees with you about it?
The absolute most somebody like me might do is install a tune, maybe. Its invisible and easily reversed but even that would void the warranty and I just can't be bothered to even worry about all of that. Plus. none of these cars with just a tune is going to be faster than a Plaid.
You are on a huge enthusiast forum here...how many of us modify the engines in our cars? Not many, and the ones that do have older cars that are low value and are out of warranty. People that spend $100,000 on cars like I do generally aren't interested in going in and modifying the engines in their new cars. We also generally are busy professionals who don't have the ability, facilities or time to work on our cars ourselves. Modifying them requires finding speciality shops and paying big sums of money. Also not feasible to have them un-modified for warranty repair. If we want a fast car that we can also drive every day and that we don't have to worry about all of this, the Plaid is an incredible car. When you post this about tuning cars do you notice nobody ever agrees with you about it?
The absolute most somebody like me might do is install a tune, maybe. Its invisible and easily reversed but even that would void the warranty and I just can't be bothered to even worry about all of that. Plus. none of these cars with just a tune is going to be faster than a Plaid.
GX 550's are built in Tahara, Japan. Hopefully they don't have the same issue. We'll find out soon.
05-30-24, 01:25 PM
#4213
Lexus Test Driver
If it's a design issue, it won't matter where it's assembled.
The GX550 is built in Japan, but is the V35A-FTS built there? I thought they were all built in Alabama.
The GX550 is built in Japan, but is the V35A-FTS built there? I thought they were all built in Alabama.
05-30-24, 01:28 PM
#4214
05-30-24, 01:38 PM
#4215
Lexus Fanatic
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 05-30-24 at 02:03 PM.