General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#4741
Lexus Fanatic
This is cleaner and more modern but no thank you. 2025:
Screen is great how it is, at least 1080p. I'd rather have all the buttons and a smaller screen. It's great how it is.
Screen is great how it is, at least 1080p. I'd rather have all the buttons and a smaller screen. It's great how it is.
#4743
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
looks like a rolling ad for sherwin williams.
yeah it couldn't be a more boring design. imo of course.
you mean half a century. and oh god no.
ouch... gonna take a $$ bath if trading in a 1 month old monster truck.
what broke on the duramax truck?
i'm sure that jag is very smooth and comfortable. what's up with the a/c?
reminds me of an old joke... do you know why lucas doesn't make tv's? because they couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil.
omg is right... ugh... ugh... and piano black plastic to complete the magnet design.
what broke on the duramax truck?
reminds me of an old joke... do you know why lucas doesn't make tv's? because they couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil.
omg is right... ugh... ugh... and piano black plastic to complete the magnet design.
#4746
Lexus Champion
I wouldn't touch the 3rd gen Tundra with a 10 foot pole, given the issues. A recall on the hybrid engine is all but guaranteed to happen because it's the exact same engine built on the same line with the same parts. I don't think Toyota has figured out how to make it without the shavings yet.
If it were my money, it's either a 6.2 GM(assuming they fixed their rod issues and cylinder deactivation) or an F-150 with either the 5.0 or 3.5 powerboost. The 3.5 will tow better, the 5.0 will be simpler. Keep in mind the 5.0 Coyote, while a powerful engine, makes its power a bit higher in the powerband than other truck V8's. Still plenty of grunt though.
If it were my money, it's either a 6.2 GM(assuming they fixed their rod issues and cylinder deactivation) or an F-150 with either the 5.0 or 3.5 powerboost. The 3.5 will tow better, the 5.0 will be simpler. Keep in mind the 5.0 Coyote, while a powerful engine, makes its power a bit higher in the powerband than other truck V8's. Still plenty of grunt though.
With that said, I really want to like the Sierra. My concern is that it's the Denali version that appeals to me, and the payload on the Denali doesn't represent a significant enough boost over what I have now. I would need to consider a 2500 which feels like more truck than I want, though I have no doubt it would radically improve my towing enjoyment.
I would not have considered the GM trucks if they had not updated the interiors. I really like this:
I also like the idea of Super Cruise. Oddly enough, the biggest disappointment that I have is the inability to get a pano sunroof.
I do intend to check out the F-150, most likely with the 3.5 Ecoboost and the Max Tow package. I've built a few online to research prices and options, but at this point I need to just head over to the local Ford dealer and take one out for a drive.
#4747
I'm with everyone who couldn't live with the fingerprints across that massive screen.
Denali interior looks very nice. Now I'm curious as what the rest of the inside looks like.
GM has been upping their game lately, which is nice to see. Can't say the same about Toyota.
Denali interior looks very nice. Now I'm curious as what the rest of the inside looks like.
GM has been upping their game lately, which is nice to see. Can't say the same about Toyota.
#4748
Lead Lap
For the a/c, in their infinite wisdom, Honda changed the a/c propellant from R134a to R1234yf. It’s supposedly more eco friendly, it’s definitely more expensive, but the downside is it’s also corrosive. Honda has an extended warranty on some a/c components. I had the work done on my car and on my folks’ 2016. They replaced an a/c compressor seal and the condenser. The remaining failure item is the evaporator. The one in my folks’ car is faulty so it’s a matter of time for mine. The evaporator is not covered under warranty and it’s a $2100 job. The dash has to come out.
I opted not to buy the 2016 IS because LFS does not negotiate lease buyouts and the residual was greater than the car’s actual value. I figured the Civic would be a reliable interim car. It’s had more issues than I was prepared for (there was a fuel pump recall before the a/c started blowing warm air) and I am disappointed with Honda’s handling of it. This is my first Honda and it will be my last.
#4750
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by mmarshall
A nice wood-trim package for the side would also be nice, like on the American station wagons of years ago.
So what's the difference between rainbow-stripes a half century old and woody-exterior trim a half century old? We're not talking about two different clocks here LOL.
#4751
I think wood-paneling would be a nice option. I'd certainly get it on a vehicle. Always was a big fan of the old Wagoneer.
And too bad about the Hondas. Like Toyota, they have seen much better days as far as quality goes.
And too bad about the Hondas. Like Toyota, they have seen much better days as far as quality goes.
#4752
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
As of January 1, 2021, the United States Environmental Protection Agency mandated that all passenger cars and light-duty trucks coming off the assembly lines must utilize R-1234yf as their HVAC system refrigerant. The European Union forced this changeover on January 1 of the previous year.
Like all manufacturers, following the regulation announcement in 2012, Honda did the changeover on a rolling basis. So the Civic switched to r1234yf with the launch of the 10th gen for MY2016, and the accord for its 10th gen in MY2018.
#4753
Lead Lap
Their "infinite wisdom" was the decision to continue selling automobiles equipped with air conditioning.
Like all manufacturers, following the regulation announcement in 2012, Honda did the changeover on a rolling basis. So the Civic switched to r1234yf with the launch of the 10th gen for MY2016, and the accord for its 10th gen in MY2018.
Like all manufacturers, following the regulation announcement in 2012, Honda did the changeover on a rolling basis. So the Civic switched to r1234yf with the launch of the 10th gen for MY2016, and the accord for its 10th gen in MY2018.
Whatever the reasoning, we end up with a/c that eventually stops working. I understand that there’s potential for failure with anything. Honda’s **** poor handling of the situation is why I won’t buy another Honda.
The propellant itself is a poor choice and granted, the mandate is not Honda’s fault, but they need to stand behind their cars.
Last edited by link13; 06-18-24 at 09:32 AM.