General Car Conversation 2024
06-18-24, 09:01 PM
#4801
Lexus Champion
Yes, as an engineer myself, the repair that I want done is to do it exactly by the book which would be to the original engineering specifications, which would indeed include a new gasket.
06-18-24, 09:49 PM
#4802
Lead Lap
Honda corporate, the technician who I am on a first name basis with, and the service writer all told me that the refrigerant does cause the corrosion. The tech elaborated and said every time they change the refrigerant, they have issues with at least some Honda models. For this specific failure, it affects the Civic and CR-V. Accords, Oddysseys, etc. do not have the issue.
06-18-24, 10:16 PM
#4803
Lexus Test Driver
However, replacing a gasket is something any grease monkey can do.
That's why on my car I used a gasket on my oil pan
Required less skill for me as a DIY. Lol
It came from the factory with Toyota FPIG sealer and I wasn't confident enough to use it and get it perfect the first time.
Honda corporate, the technician who I am on a first name basis with, and the service writer all told me that the refrigerant does cause the corrosion. The tech elaborated and said every time they change the refrigerant, they have issues with at least some Honda models. For this specific failure, it affects the Civic and CR-V. Accords, Oddysseys, etc. do not have the issue.
06-18-24, 10:37 PM
#4804
Lexus Test Driver
06-18-24, 11:30 PM
#4805
Reliability and quality are very good. All those fleets out there using American trucks aren’t using unreliable vehicles. All those livery services operating the SUV versions of those trucks, same thing.
If I were shopping for a pickup or large SUV I wouldn’t even consider any Toyotas.
If I were shopping for a pickup or large SUV I wouldn’t even consider any Toyotas.
Mine has 108,000 miles on it. It's had a starter failure and a leaky coolant pipe o-ring($10, 15 minute fix in my driveway). I've spent less than $600 on actual repairs in 7 years. All other maintenance has been regular scheduled maintenance.
If I had a time machine I'd make the same choice again.
If I had a time machine I'd make the same choice again.
Quality of the domestics is very good. Reliability is terrible for all of them. But, domestics are heavily discounted so it’s possible that taking the discount and pocketing the money and then rolling the dice might
work. Tundra has a lot of corner cutting, auto 4WD debuted in the late 90s and it’s now 2024
work. Tundra has a lot of corner cutting, auto 4WD debuted in the late 90s and it’s now 2024
it does indeed! I can appreciate a good exhaust note as much as I appreciate not having one. I had aftermarket (and barely legal) exhausts on a few of my cars, but mine are all stock now. If there's one car I regret selling it's my V8 F Type which absolutely must have been 100% illegal despite being stock. One of the loudest cars I've driven, and it had a fantastic note.
Thankfully the NA V8 @JDR76 has in his current 2.5 gen Tundra is free of debris as well. The biggest knock on the 5.7 is it’s thirsty especially when you start adding a lift and bigger wheels and tires.
06-19-24, 05:45 AM
#4807
Lexus Fanatic
Everybody has a story, but the bottom line is companies wouldn’t depend on domestic trucks if they were unreliable. They’re not.
06-19-24, 06:25 AM
#4808
Lexus Fanatic
My work is full of fleet F150s and Silverados. Like many fleet vehicles they are swapped out for new models after around 4yrs or so.
I actually know one small business company that has 2nd gen Tundras as company vehicles and I asked the owner about the choice and he simply stated they never give him any problems. My work actually has a few Tacomas (3.5 liter V6) and 4Runners. But the rest are Silverado and F150s with a small sprinkle or Ram 1500 and gas 3/4 ton Fords
My dad has a 2012 Coyote F150. I believe around 60-70k miles his electric steering went out. Luckily it was under extended warranty. I want to say it was like a $1100-$1200 repair if I’m not mistaken. You wouldn’t believe the maintenance I didn’t do in my 2nd gen Tundra. I’m more of a if it break then I fix/replace than a preventative maintenance person. Oil, gas and filters and let it ride!!
This is why I think you see so many domestic fleet sales.
Only way I can like your post!!
Thankfully the NA V8 @JDR76 has in his current 2.5 gen Tundra is free of debris as well. The biggest knock on the 5.7 is it’s thirsty especially when you start adding a lift and bigger wheels and tires.
I actually know one small business company that has 2nd gen Tundras as company vehicles and I asked the owner about the choice and he simply stated they never give him any problems. My work actually has a few Tacomas (3.5 liter V6) and 4Runners. But the rest are Silverado and F150s with a small sprinkle or Ram 1500 and gas 3/4 ton Fords
My dad has a 2012 Coyote F150. I believe around 60-70k miles his electric steering went out. Luckily it was under extended warranty. I want to say it was like a $1100-$1200 repair if I’m not mistaken. You wouldn’t believe the maintenance I didn’t do in my 2nd gen Tundra. I’m more of a if it break then I fix/replace than a preventative maintenance person. Oil, gas and filters and let it ride!!
This is why I think you see so many domestic fleet sales.
Only way I can like your post!!
Thankfully the NA V8 @JDR76 has in his current 2.5 gen Tundra is free of debris as well. The biggest knock on the 5.7 is it’s thirsty especially when you start adding a lift and bigger wheels and tires.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 06-19-24 at 08:27 AM.
06-19-24, 06:31 AM
#4809
Toyota simply does not compete well in the work truck and fleet segments, and Toyota knows this. There is almost no reason to buy a fleet of Tundras. There is no regular cab, no 2500 HD models etc etc. Tundra also lacks a basic engine as well. Your gen Tundra Toyota tried hard to get into the work truck segment and it didn’t work. I remember in 2006 they were the infrastructure shows and trade shows trying to bring awareness. Toyota also doesn’t compete anywhere near the top end of the off road trucks, TRD Pro is nowhere near the Raptor or the RAM equivalent. Maybe close to the GM but I’m not sure. Toyota targets a specific buyer and they do well doing t that.
I bet a 2nd gen regular cab Tundra with a blower is a fun truck. Those blown single cab Coyotes scoot!!
06-19-24, 06:45 AM
#4810
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
Yup. So much so that Ford has taken notice, and while 4wd costs $3800 on nearly every version of the F150, if you get an XL single cab shortbed with the 5.0, the price jumps to $5015.
06-19-24, 08:15 AM
#4811
Lexus Champion
06-19-24, 10:32 AM
#4813
Lexus Test Driver
Waiting for it to dry is the easy part.
Beading a gasket by hand is harder than slapping one on out of a box, IMO.
I like gaskets because I don't trust my hand made gasket making skills yet.
I've done it a couple times with success but still makes me nervous of having to do the job again if I don't get it right and it leaks.
Beading a gasket by hand is harder than slapping one on out of a box, IMO.
I like gaskets because I don't trust my hand made gasket making skills yet.
I've done it a couple times with success but still makes me nervous of having to do the job again if I don't get it right and it leaks.
06-19-24, 10:50 AM
#4814
Lead Lap
Waiting for it to dry is the easy part.
Beading a gasket by hand is harder than slapping one on out of a box, IMO.
I like gaskets because I don't trust my hand made gasket making skills yet.
I've done it a couple times with success but still makes me nervous of having to do the job again if I don't get it right and it leaks.
Beading a gasket by hand is harder than slapping one on out of a box, IMO.
I like gaskets because I don't trust my hand made gasket making skills yet.
I've done it a couple times with success but still makes me nervous of having to do the job again if I don't get it right and it leaks.
06-19-24, 11:11 AM
#4815
Lexus Test Driver
