General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#631
Lexus Test Driver
BMW isn't as guilty as mercedes though... they at least stuck to the strict formula of: M + 1 digit = M car, it's easy to tell M550 vs M5 as far as "what is" and "what isn't"
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
#633
Lead Lap
BMW isn't as guilty as mercedes though... they at least stuck to the strict formula of: M + 1 digit = M car, it's easy to tell M550 vs M5 as far as "what is" and "what isn't"
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
Anyways, who cares? It’s not like the “dilution” has caused any downsides besides purists whining on the internet.
#635
Lexus Champion
BMW isn't as guilty as mercedes though... they at least stuck to the strict formula of: M + 1 digit = M car, it's easy to tell M550 vs M5 as far as "what is" and "what isn't"
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
for the AMG models it used to always be very clear: letters + 2 digits = the AMG model, but now they have 35, 43, 53, 45, 55, 63, etc... and only like 2 of those are "real" AMG cars
Edit: Haha! Yeah I guess an A class with a average engine is an "AMG" now lol! Can't wait to encounter one in the wild and show it it's place in the actual hierarchy. That's just sad, AMG used to mean it just outright overpowers everyone else.....
Last edited by Striker223; 01-21-24 at 05:34 PM.
#638
Lead Lap
Seems to be enough takers (suckers?) to justify keeping them around, but that for price I just can't fathom it. The value prop just isn't there for any of those compact vehicles beyond their base versions imo, whether it be the S3/RS3, these Benz vehicles, or the M235i Gran Coupe.
#639
Lexus Champion
I will drive the G90 but I would probably just keep my S560 vs one. Yeah I think EVs are out this time because of travel, next time.
I also confirmed the MB Extended Warranty is pro rata refundable so I’ll get it regardless and that gives me more time.
I just landed in Orlando, apparently my rental is a brand new QX80 with 760 miles on it!
I also confirmed the MB Extended Warranty is pro rata refundable so I’ll get it regardless and that gives me more time.
I just landed in Orlando, apparently my rental is a brand new QX80 with 760 miles on it!
I'm rooting for you to get an LX, that would be great.
#640
Lexus Test Driver
What constitutes “real?” If it’s that the engine needs to be handbuilt, then 4/6 you listed can count. The C43 now uses the same hand-built I4 as the CLA45.
Anyways, who cares? It’s not like the “dilution” has caused any downsides besides purists whining on the internet.
Anyways, who cares? It’s not like the “dilution” has caused any downsides besides purists whining on the internet.
and yes now the current C43 does use the 2.0T AMG I4, but the W205 was literally called the C450 and then rebranded in 2017, basically just because
you're right though lol the whining purists (hello there) are probably the biggest measurable downside... for me at least i just think there's a coolness to exclusivity, and that it's unfair to the legacy of a once independent operation... it used to be that seeing 'an AMG' was an occasion and something worth getting excited about
i'm not trying to say any of the "real" ones are now somehow less fun to see but it's just like enough already show a lil respect to the former company
#641
Pole Position
I will drive the G90 but I would probably just keep my S560 vs one. Yeah I think EVs are out this time because of travel, next time.
I also confirmed the MB Extended Warranty is pro rata refundable so I’ll get it regardless and that gives me more time.
I just landed in Orlando, apparently my rental is a brand new QX80 with 760 miles on it!
I also confirmed the MB Extended Warranty is pro rata refundable so I’ll get it regardless and that gives me more time.
I just landed in Orlando, apparently my rental is a brand new QX80 with 760 miles on it!
#643
Lexus Champion
The Panamera is a weapon in GTS or turbo spec for sure, like a smaller A8....smallest of the 3 that use the platform really since the flying Spur is the big car in that lineup.
#644
Lead Lap
The A8 isn't on MSB though. Are you counting the Flying Spur and Continental GT separately?
#645
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
to you who has not and won't ever buy one anyway.
plenty of takers of 'm' and 'm sport' still.
'real' as defined by you, arbiter of all today should be as it was 20 years ago.
exactly.
and yet, one of the guys at throttle house, definitely an enthusiast, just got a golf R and absolutely loves it.
all this 'cylinder envy' is pretty silly.
plenty of takers of 'm' and 'm sport' still.
What constitutes “real?” If it’s that the engine needs to be handbuilt, then 4/6 you listed can count. The C43 now uses the same hand-built I4 as the CLA45.
Anyways, who cares? It’s not like the “dilution” has caused any downsides besides purists whining on the internet.
Anyways, who cares? It’s not like the “dilution” has caused any downsides besides purists whining on the internet.
all this 'cylinder envy' is pretty silly.