General Car Conversation 2024
02-03-24, 07:06 AM
#1036
Lexus Fanatic
02-03-24, 09:29 AM
#1037
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
i have never understood an 'off road luxury vehicle' because if you ACTUALLY take it off road, it's going to get scratches, bumps, dents, etc., and you're likely going to have to trek sand, dirt, water, or worse into the interior. much rather have an intentional defender type interior than a range rover.
now if one's idea of off roading is driving to the golf course or the parking lot of some fancy hunting place, then the RR is the way to go.
now if one's idea of off roading is driving to the golf course or the parking lot of some fancy hunting place, then the RR is the way to go.
02-03-24, 09:37 AM
#1038
Lexus Fanatic
i have never understood an 'off road luxury vehicle' because if you ACTUALLY take it off road, it's going to get scratches, bumps, dents, etc., and you're likely going to have to trek sand, dirt, water, or worse into the interior. much rather have an intentional defender type interior than a range rover.
now if one's idea of off roading is driving to the golf course or the parking lot of some fancy hunting place, then the RR is the way to go.
now if one's idea of off roading is driving to the golf course or the parking lot of some fancy hunting place, then the RR is the way to go.
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Last edited by Toys4RJill; 02-03-24 at 09:44 AM.
02-03-24, 09:45 AM
#1039
Lexus Fanatic
i have never understood an 'off road luxury vehicle' because if you ACTUALLY take it off road, it's going to get scratches, bumps, dents, etc., and you're likely going to have to trek sand, dirt, water, or worse into the interior. much rather have an intentional defender type interior than a range rover.
now if one's idea of off roading is driving to the golf course or the parking lot of some fancy hunting place, then the RR is the way to go.
What % of your LC’s capability do you use? Maybe 20%. No different. It’s a fast sporty car you use to drive to a restaurant hardly ever over 65-70 MPH because it looks cool and you like it.
02-03-24, 09:58 AM
#1040
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
haha, true.
What % of your LC’s capability do you use? Maybe 20%.
No different. It’s a fast sporty car you use to drive to a restaurant hardly ever over 65-70 MPH because it looks cool and you like it.
No different. It’s a fast sporty car you use to drive to a restaurant hardly ever over 65-70 MPH because it looks cool and you like it.
i got the LC because as a car enthusiast i recognized its unique attributes and design, lexus NA v8 reliability, build quality, attention to detail, and relative rarity. not for everyone sure, but i don't care about that.
02-03-24, 10:04 AM
#1041
Lexus Fanatic
the LC is a GT, not a sports car. not sure how to measure "20%". but certainly i bet a lot of people who buy a sports car like a porsche 911 turbo only use a fraction of its capabilities, but hey, they like the car, maybe they've always wanted one, more power to them.
i got the LC because as a car enthusiast i recognized its unique attributes and design, lexus NA v8 reliability, build quality, attention to detail, and relative rarity. not for everyone sure, but i don't care about that.
i got the LC because as a car enthusiast i recognized its unique attributes and design, lexus NA v8 reliability, build quality, attention to detail, and relative rarity. not for everyone sure, but i don't care about that.
At the end of the day, we all buy cars we don’t need because we want them. Range Rovers are incredible vehicles, they are unique and stylish and well made and comfortable with great driving characteristics and driving positions, buying and driving one makes total sense to me even if you never use the off road capability. Just like driving your LC to a restaurant once a week is an amazing experience even if 90% of the cars capability is never realized in doing that.
02-03-24, 10:17 AM
#1042
Lexus Champion
I find it amusing how so many people don't approve of what other people drive. Who cares?
I would love it if someone tried to lecture me for driving my 12mpg LX that seats 8, driving it alone 99% of the time.
I would love it if someone tried to lecture me for driving my 12mpg LX that seats 8, driving it alone 99% of the time.
02-03-24, 10:20 AM
#1043
Lexus Champion
My wife isn’t even an enthusiast and isn’t really into cars. She just knows that the 6 is a downgrade and point blank said I’m not downgrading to a smaller engine. She’s had a V8 since we bought the first gen GX, to the second gen GX, then the Durango SRT and now the X7 M50i. I believe the RR V8 is the same TTV8 in the X7 and she doesn’t want to downgrade the engine from what we already have even though she doesn’t drive fast/hard but she likes what she likes. In principle I just have a hard time paying $25k more for a bigger engine.
That is a huggggge price increase though, for the V8. That's irritating. Those new RRs look absolutely amazing.
I do love it, your wife is literally 100% the person I describe in a lot of my rhetoric. Not a car enthusiast, but she likes her V8 and V8 attributes.
02-03-24, 10:30 AM
#1044
Lexus Fanatic
Honestly, I wouldn’t pay $25k for the V8, the 6 in the RR feels great. $10k? Sure.
02-03-24, 10:51 AM
#1045
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
other than that, love it!
02-03-24, 10:51 AM
#1046
Lexus Fanatic
I wonder what is more ancient ...my 4.0L GR V6 or your 5.0 UR V8. Both date back to the GWB era 
The new GX550 and the RR Defender are also status symbols. They are lifestyle vehicles...from well know luxury brands that project certain lifestyles.
yeah. big price jump
Hard to justify that.
...my 4.0L GR V6 or your 5.0 UR V8. Both date back to the GWB era Exactly…I just don’t understand casting aspersions towards people who buy an SUV like a Range Rover who never take it off road when people buy all manner of cars that have capability they don’t have and never need.
At the end of the day, we all buy cars we don’t need because we want them. Range Rovers are incredible vehicles, they are unique and stylish and well made and comfortable with great driving characteristics and driving positions, buying and driving one makes total sense to me even if you never use the off road capability. Just like driving your LC to a restaurant once a week is an amazing experience even if 90% of the cars capability is never realized in doing that.
At the end of the day, we all buy cars we don’t need because we want them. Range Rovers are incredible vehicles, they are unique and stylish and well made and comfortable with great driving characteristics and driving positions, buying and driving one makes total sense to me even if you never use the off road capability. Just like driving your LC to a restaurant once a week is an amazing experience even if 90% of the cars capability is never realized in doing that.
Yep. V8s weren't the go-to for decades and decades for nothing. Luxury cars, trucks, sports cars, etc. etc.
That is a huggggge price increase though, for the V8. That's irritating. Those new RRs look absolutely amazing.
I do love it, your wife is literally 100% the person I describe in a lot of my rhetoric. Not a car enthusiast, but she likes her V8 and V8 attributes.
That is a huggggge price increase though, for the V8. That's irritating. Those new RRs look absolutely amazing.
I do love it, your wife is literally 100% the person I describe in a lot of my rhetoric. Not a car enthusiast, but she likes her V8 and V8 attributes.
Hard to justify that.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 02-03-24 at 11:32 AM.
02-03-24, 11:03 AM
#1047
Lexus Fanatic
You can off-road without damaging the car. I’ve taken lots of cars to places that would shock you, including my S Class. You just have to be careful,
02-03-24, 11:13 AM
#1048
Pole Position
You'd be surprised how many Range Rover owners take theirs off road, including some reasonably challenging stuff. I took all of mine off-road, individually at our places in the lakes and mountains, and also at owner meets.
The thing about a Range Rover (and this is true of certain other vehicles) isn't whether you actually do any somewhat ridiculous things with it - it's the fact that it can.
The thing about a Range Rover (and this is true of certain other vehicles) isn't whether you actually do any somewhat ridiculous things with it - it's the fact that it can.
02-03-24, 11:17 AM
#1049
Lexus Test Driver
I see the occasional GX when I'm offroading, but the majority of the time any newer vehicle I encounter off-road is a 4Runner, Wrangler, Bronco, or a midsize or half-ton pickup. Unless I'm just on dirt/gravel roads that aren't challenging, then I see all manner of crossovers.
Part of the reason I only bought an XLT F-150 is I didn't want to feel bad about ruining a Lariat or Platinum. My truck has certainly taken a bit of trail rash.
Part of the reason I only bought an XLT F-150 is I didn't want to feel bad about ruining a Lariat or Platinum. My truck has certainly taken a bit of trail rash.
02-03-24, 11:24 AM
#1050
Lexus Champion
LX paint and leather/trim is very durable while still being very luxurious. Are RRs not?