General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
03-01-24, 04:59 AM
#1921
Lexus Fanatic
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03-01-24, 05:22 AM
#1922
Lexus Fanatic
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-01-24 at 05:28 AM.
03-01-24, 05:58 AM
#1923
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as to the value of staggered, i question the value of full time 4wd you revere for people whose idea of off roading is a big mall parking lot.
staggered wheels/tires look better, provide more traction to the rear, and are standard on almost every car with performance credentials.
but yeah, if one has awd/4wd or rotating tires is important, then staggered is not the way to go.
03-01-24, 06:21 AM
#1924
I prefer a square setup because I like being able to rotate my tires. Also how do staggered wheels look better? You can’t tell the rear tires are wider unless you take them off and compare to the front.
03-01-24, 07:24 AM
#1925
Lexus Fanatic
This experience has shown me, I would like a temporary spare. A temp spare would have gotten me home without a tow, and I could have dealt with the situation with the car safely in the garage.
Now with that said, excluding the bizarre two tire issue with the Pacifica this is the first time this has happened to me (a sidewall tear that rendered the tire totally unusable) in 25 years. If the flat had been a nail AAA would have plugged it at the roadside or I could have used the slime kit and been on my way, its a pretty unusual occurrence. But, I think the what, 10 inches of floor height it saves me to not have a temp spare in the trunk is worth trading in for a temp spare.
The staggered wheels, on this kind of car (AWD, luxury sedan) I think the staggered wheels aren't worth the tradeoffs. I would rather they be square.
Now with that said, excluding the bizarre two tire issue with the Pacifica this is the first time this has happened to me (a sidewall tear that rendered the tire totally unusable) in 25 years. If the flat had been a nail AAA would have plugged it at the roadside or I could have used the slime kit and been on my way, its a pretty unusual occurrence. But, I think the what, 10 inches of floor height it saves me to not have a temp spare in the trunk is worth trading in for a temp spare.
The staggered wheels, on this kind of car (AWD, luxury sedan) I think the staggered wheels aren't worth the tradeoffs. I would rather they be square.
03-01-24, 08:04 AM
#1926
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The staggered wheels, on this kind of car (AWD, luxury sedan) I think the staggered wheels aren't worth the tradeoffs. I would rather they be square.
03-01-24, 08:13 AM
#1927
Lexus Fanatic
That was the other part of it, I had to leave the car at the shop that does my tires which isn't in an upscale place, and my car sitting in that big empty lot at night stuck out like a sore thumb...would have rather it sat in the garage on a temp spare until the tires came in
You can buy one, some people on MBWorld have them but they take up the whole trunk
You can buy one, some people on MBWorld have them but they take up the whole trunk
Last edited by SW17LS; 03-01-24 at 08:20 AM.
03-01-24, 08:45 AM
#1928
Lexus Fanatic
This experience has shown me, I would like a temporary spare. A temp spare would have gotten me home without a tow, and I could have dealt with the situation with the car safely in the garage.
Now with that said, excluding the bizarre two tire issue with the Pacifica this is the first time this has happened to me (a sidewall tear that rendered the tire totally unusable) in 25 years. If the flat had been a nail AAA would have plugged it at the roadside or I could have used the slime kit and been on my way, its a pretty unusual occurrence. But, I think the what, 10 inches of floor height it saves me to not have a temp spare in the trunk is worth trading in for a temp spare.
The staggered wheels, on this kind of car (AWD, luxury sedan) I think the staggered wheels aren't worth the tradeoffs. I would rather they be square.
Now with that said, excluding the bizarre two tire issue with the Pacifica this is the first time this has happened to me (a sidewall tear that rendered the tire totally unusable) in 25 years. If the flat had been a nail AAA would have plugged it at the roadside or I could have used the slime kit and been on my way, its a pretty unusual occurrence. But, I think the what, 10 inches of floor height it saves me to not have a temp spare in the trunk is worth trading in for a temp spare.
The staggered wheels, on this kind of car (AWD, luxury sedan) I think the staggered wheels aren't worth the tradeoffs. I would rather they be square.
That was the other part of it, I had to leave the car at the shop that does my tires which isn't in an upscale place, and my car sitting in that big empty lot at night stuck out like a sore thumb...would have rather it sat in the garage on a temp spare until the tires came in
You can buy one, some people on MBWorld have them but they take up the whole trunk
You can buy one, some people on MBWorld have them but they take up the whole trunk
And technically, you’d risk damaging your full time four wheel drive system on your S560 with a temp.
03-01-24, 08:47 AM
#1929
Are your OEM tires RFs? I'm surprised that you don't have a spare.
Staggered tires won't prevent you from getting a spare, even when the tires are RFs. It's an option for some brands. Many squared set up vehicles no longer have a spare. Most EVs don't have spares either. I'm not sure how people feel about this. I either have to have RF or spare, esp. if I use it for road trips.
I think staggered tires look better when on the right ones. You can still rotate. You rotate left-right.
I think staggered tires look better when on the right ones. You can still rotate. You rotate left-right.
03-01-24, 08:50 AM
#1930
Lexus Fanatic
Staggered tires won't prevent you from getting a spare, even when the tires are RFs. It's an option for some brands. Many squared set up vehicles no longer have a spare. Most EVs don't have spares either. I'm not sure how people feel about this. I either have to have RF or spare, esp. if I use it for road trips.
Most EVs don't have spares either. I'm not sure how people feel about this.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-01-24 at 08:55 AM.
03-01-24, 09:19 AM
#1932
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Thread Starter
Combine that overall rarity with the fact that the only cars typically equipped with staggered wheels/tires are ones where driving dynamics are highly valued, having a spare taking up half the cargo space and adding 100 lbs to the curb weight isn't exactly top priority. It's totally possible, just generally not desirable.
03-01-24, 09:26 AM
#1933
My grandparents 2010 C300 sport has a staggered setup which is overkill for 200 hp entry level luxury sedan. And it’s certainly not obvious from eye level that they’re staggered.
03-01-24, 09:49 AM
#1934
Lexus Fanatic
Combine that overall rarity with the fact that the only cars typically equipped with staggered wheels/tires are ones where driving dynamics are highly valued, having a spare taking up half the cargo space and adding 100 lbs to the curb weight isn't exactly top priority. It's totally possible, just generally not desirable.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-01-24 at 10:02 AM.
03-01-24, 10:09 AM
#1935
Lexus Test Driver
I want a full size spare tire.
Even if it means I have to drive a bigger car that has room for it.
Even if it means I have to drive a bigger car that has room for it.