General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#1936
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@SW17LS if you had full size spare, you would be better off than a donut. Once you put the full size spare tire on, you can can then go to any tire shop at your leisure. A temporary spare imposes limitations and restrictions on you.
And technically, you’d risk damaging your full time four wheel drive system on your S560 with a temp.
And technically, you’d risk damaging your full time four wheel drive system on your S560 with a temp.
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Same here
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare. I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
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Same here
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare. I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
https://sparetire.com/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/2020-Coupe/
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare. I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
https://sparetire.com/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/2020-Coupe/
Plenty of cars with staggered wheels come with temporary spares that are "full sized" in that they are the same diameter as the front and rear wheels. Mercedes offered one on the S Class up until the W222 generation. That spare you linked to is a great example, its less than an inch difference in diameter from the OEM wheels and tires.
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W222 is your gen right?
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also, what vehicles besides huge trucks or a few full size suvs have "full time four wheel drive"?
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare.I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
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'because the spare in a LS460 would allow the driver to drive forever on it....your G80 must go to a tire shop within 50 mile and you can't drive over a certain speed. That's all.
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Same here
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare. I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
https://sparetire.com/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/2020-Coupe/
A perfect world would be having matching tires at all four wheels and a full size full time spare. I don't think staggered tires can possibly have a full time full size spare...I don't think it has ever been offered.. A temp spare is just dumb IMO ... in every scenario
https://sparetire.com/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/2020-Coupe/
In my truck, a full size spare makes sense. If i have a flat while hauling something, I need a full-size tire to handle the load. Additionally, storing a full-size spare is much much easier in a truck.
My car does not need that. I just need to get to a tire shop and have the flat fixed. A temp spare will serve just fine.
I get the sense you don't care much about performance cars, given that you A) drive 4runners and B) hate the idea of ever going faster than 45 mph. The market isn't you. Most drivers are not you. You're an outlier.
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I have on several occasions used a 17" wheel with a narrow 225/55/17 tire as a spare on my E90, replacing 4 different wheel/tire combos comprised of 18" and 19" wheels and tires from 235 to 265 section width. They are all the same diameter, so it works fine.
The ONLY exception to this are the Porsche 911 RS cars (GT2RS/GT3RS) , which actually use a 1.5" larger diameter tire in the rear. No one else does this.
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I'm not going to drive forever on the full sized spare anyways because it doesn't match the tires I have etc, I'm ony going to drive on it a few days until I have replacement tires and that spare will go back in the trunk. So that temporary spare you posted above would serve me just fine, I could drive around on that for a couple days if I had to, better than having nothing like I have now.
That temp spare is perfectly fine to me. If I decide I'm going to keep the car for a few more years I may buy that...I wouldn't carry it all the time but I could carry it on a trip, and locally if its at home I could always have it brought to me in a situation like this, or I could have had the car towed home and put it on there.
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I know that you've long believed you know what's best for every other driver, but you simply don't.
In my truck, a full size spare makes sense. If i have a flat while hauling something, I need a full-size tire to handle the load. Additionally, storing a full-size spare is much much easier in a truck.
My car does not need that. I just need to get to a tire shop and have the flat fixed. A temp spare will serve just fine.
I get the sense you don't care much about performance cars, given that you A) drive 4runners and B) hate the idea of ever going faster than 45 mph. The market isn't you. Most drivers are not you. You're an outlier.
In my truck, a full size spare makes sense. If i have a flat while hauling something, I need a full-size tire to handle the load. Additionally, storing a full-size spare is much much easier in a truck.
My car does not need that. I just need to get to a tire shop and have the flat fixed. A temp spare will serve just fine.
I get the sense you don't care much about performance cars, given that you A) drive 4runners and B) hate the idea of ever going faster than 45 mph. The market isn't you. Most drivers are not you. You're an outlier.
It absolutely can, we've corrected you on this point several times. Overall diameter is the only thing that matters. If I wanted a full-size spare on my M3, I would throw an extra front in the trunk. It would work fine at either end, because both are the same diameter. This also applies to the xDrive version, which uses the exact same wheels and tires as my RWD.
I'm not going to drive forever on the full sized spare anyways because it doesn't match the tires I have etc, I'm ony going to drive on it a few days until I have replacement tires and that spare will go back in the trunk. So that temporary spare you posted above would serve me just fine, I could drive around on that for a couple days if I had to, better than having nothing like I have now.
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If you had a LS460awd..and you used your spare which would be a matching tire like all four...you could drive forever... And if you had followed the tire rotation to spec you'd be driving on that spare every 6 months....so instead of a spare...it's like 5th regular tire.
I just don't have any need or desire to be able to drive on a spare forever. Whenever I have a flat I'm going to be on that spare for a few days max, so I don't really care if its permanent.
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