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Old 04-03-24, 12:38 PM
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I'm not 100% certain if the wheel/tire had to be removed every time. I think some guys found ways without having to do that.

My friend I worked with for a long time had an Avenger. He said it was a huge pita changing the battery.
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Old 04-03-24, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Having the battery under the seat is a poorly thought out design. I wonder what the Audi dealer book cost is for the replacement. The floor design in the second gen doesn't seem all that bad.
Doesn't seem poorly thought out at all. I just watched someone do it in just over 8 minutes, while explaining each and every step as he went. I assume the dealer charges an hour of book time, as that seems to be the minimum for pretty much anything.

Poorly-thought out design is the Chrysler cloud cars (Cirrus/Stratus/Sebring) that require removing the driver's side wheel and the inner fender to get access. Combines all the negatives of a shorter life from being exposed to both the engine and the elements, combined with incredibly tight access and lots of corrosion.
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Old 04-03-24, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
We can disagree on that. it an awful location under a seat.
So you never had a rusted bolt or failed hold down on any of your cars bay mounted batteries?
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Old 04-03-24, 01:40 PM
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Old 04-03-24, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
So you never had a rusted bolt or failed hold down on any of your cars bay mounted batteries?
nope. Never had an issue.


I have had a battery replaced at roadside assistance, and some I’ve done as preventative maintenance at the service centre

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Doesn't seem poorly thought out at all. I just watched someone do it in just over 8 minutes, while explaining each and every step as he went. I assume the dealer charges an hour of book time, as that seems to be the minimum for pretty much anything.
Looking up Q7. This is not a well thought out design. The passenger footwell design is much better




https://www.audiforums.com/forum/aud...ery-q7-121477/


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I'm not 100% certain if the wheel/tire had to be removed every time. I think some guys found ways without having to do that.

My friend I worked with for a long time had an Avenger. He said it was a huge pita changing the battery.
that is not a well thought out design

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Old 04-03-24, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
nope. Never had an issue.


I have had a battery replaced at roadside assistance, and some I’ve done as preventative maintenance at the service centre
This makes it sound like you've never replaced a battery yourself. Is that correct? If so, not surprised you've never had an issue. But that doesn't mean the person who actually did the work didn't get to experience the joy of corroded terminals or rusty hold-downs.

I did two batteries last year, and I suspect Striker's done that many today. The super-accessible one in the engine compartment of my FIL's car was definitely more of a pain than the one buried in the corner of my E90s trunk, and based on what I've seen, also more of a pain than the one in the 1st gen Q7.
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Old 04-03-24, 02:02 PM
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My Viper battery was behind the driver's side rear wheel in the rear bumper. Kind of a pain in the *** since you had to jack the car up and take off the rear wheel (which is huge and 13" wide) to get to the battery. On my GTR it is in the under the hood toward the back of the engine and is kind of a pain as well since you have to take off the cowl to get to it.
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Old 04-03-24, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
This makes it sound like you've never replaced a battery yourself. Is that correct? If so, not surprised you've never had an issue. But that doesn't mean the person who actually did the work didn't get to experience the joy of corroded te.
I have changed my own battery in my Matrix,. Was super easy. No issues. My 2004 4R is on its third battery and i alway do it during service. No issues. I did have my Corolla changed in a parking lot by roadside service and last oil change the dealer told they there was some corrosion on the terminals so it was a $40 service to clean it up. The floor design in the second Gen Q7 makes much better sense than under a seat

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The super-accessible one in the engine compartment of my FIL's car was definitely more of a pain than the one buried in the corner of my E90s trunk, and based on what I've seen, also more of a pain than the one in the 1st gen Q7.
I am not against a trunk mounted battery at all. Many Toyotas and Lexus models have them mounted in the trunk. The under seat design is not a good idea IMO. There are a few Toyotas that have them under the rear seat.


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That Crown Athlete looks like a cross between a 3LS and a 3GS.
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Old 04-03-24, 07:42 PM
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this won't end well..


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Old 04-03-24, 09:57 PM
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I'm sorry but unless they just want to blend into traffic, I can't for the life of me understand why people drop over 200k for this.





It is a total snooze fest. Teensy. A Bentley sedan or coupe will stun people with its presence, not this thing.

There's a Mulsanne owner that lives somewhere nearby that I see often, I can see that thing coming 8 cars away and it makes me turn my head.
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Old 04-03-24, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I'm sorry but unless they just want to blend into traffic, I can't for the life of me understand why people drop over 200k for this.
same reason people will drop $50k on a GLA250

the mulsanne is a bentley.........


the bentayga just says bentley on it
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Old 04-03-24, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
same reason people will drop $50k on a GLA250

the mulsanne is a bentley.........


the bentayga just says bentley on it
It’s pitiful.

50k on a fake Mercedes is different than $250k for that Bentaga. Lol.
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Old 04-03-24, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
this won't end well..

Have you ever been to the InfoWarriorRides subreddit? All kinds of insane peoples' cars.

I won't post most of them here because there's a lot of political messaging on them, but here's a non-political one for our speed limit obedience enthusiasts


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Old 04-03-24, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
It’s pitiful.

50k on a fake Mercedes is different than $250k for that Bentaga. Lol.
it's all just a matter of scale! prince jefri of brunei, my favorite 3rd world aristocrat, would drop 6 figures at a time (on a whim) just on jewelry for one of his mistresses!

also that's just the MSRP, the bentaygas go for a lot less since that's pretty much what needs to happen for people to buy them lol
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