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Old 05-06-24, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Nissan has a nice V6 but it's very rev happy and violent, I like it though and it's fun to beat the hell out of

Are you talking about the ubiquitous former Nissan/Infiniti 3.0L V6? That was a gem......it was well-rated, drove nice, and reliable. The later 3.5L V6 also had a good reputation.
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Old 05-06-24, 07:05 PM
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Are you talking about the ubiquitous former Nissan/Infiniti 3.0L V6? That was a gem......it was well-rated, drove nice, and reliable. The later 3.5L V6 also had a good reputation.
Both really, I don't really like V6s in general but those are always nacre to drive.

I have a love/hate with Nissan, the Maxima and certain Altimas are nice as well as some infinity products for what they cost/ease of working on but there are also some dumb design and packaging decisions.

For 6 cyl engines I greatly prefer I-6s and the Mercedes/Audi V6s for different reasons, the Mercedes ones are very unusually smooth and relaxed as is fitting for the brand and Audi V6s are hilariously powerful.

I-6s are just nice, doesn't matter the brand really I have yet to deal with one I disliked in any aspect really.
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Old 05-06-24, 07:12 PM
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I had a parenting fail kind of evening...

My son (age 9) is getting more and more interested in cars. He loves all cars, but especially supercars. I asked him tonight what he thinks of the LFA. "What's an LFA?" he says. Oh no!!! We're quickly remedying this issue, via YouTube and other Google searches, plus LFA photos I've taken that reside on my phone. How could I have let this happen???
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Old 05-06-24, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I had a parenting fail kind of evening...

My son (age 9) is getting more and more interested in cars. He loves all cars, but especially supercars. I asked him tonight what he thinks of the LFA. "What's an LFA?" he says. Oh no!!! We're quickly remedying this issue, via YouTube and other Google searches, plus LFA photos I've taken that reside on my phone. How could I have let this happen???
LOL. Hey I got my hands on a 3rd gen Tundra.

Warning: do NOT test drive it.
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Old 05-06-24, 07:41 PM
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Default Virginia Toyota dealer wants $107k for a Half Cruiser

Virginia Toyota dealer wants $107k for a Half Cruiser:

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Old 05-06-24, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
LOL. Hey I got my hands on a 3rd gen Tundra.

Warning: do NOT test drive it.
LOL if I drive it, I'm done. I've driven the 3rd gen non-hybrid model, but it's the hybrid that I have my eyes on as the additional torque would greatly assist in towing. Would love to have one, just not sure that I'm willing to pay for it. My 2021 is in great shape, does the job well, and only has 15k miles on it. If I sold it, I'd definitely miss it, but still...
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Originally Posted by 460offroad
Virginia Toyota dealer wants $107k for a Half Cruiser:

https://youtu.be/lZu5uToLFZQ
The madness lol
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Originally Posted by JDR76
LOL if I drive it, I'm done. I've driven the 3rd gen non-hybrid model, but it's the hybrid that I have my eyes on as the additional torque would greatly assist in towing. Would love to have one, just not sure that I'm willing to pay for it. My 2021 is in great shape, does the job well, and only has 15k miles on it. If I sold it, I'd definitely miss it, but still...
Smart man. I towed with the 3rd gen non hybrid and it EATS hills and it’s very stable towing at “speed”. The OEM trailer brake controller worked pretty good imo. I found a dealer that rents out their brand new cars/trucks and I had the 3rd gen for a towing trip. When I returned it, he informed they had a hybrid model in the back getting washed if I wanted to try it. I’m trying to refrain myself. My next event is in same direction I just got back from with the 3rd and I wanted to compare it to my 2.5 gen pulling the same exact load in the same direction.
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Old 05-07-24, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah I'm done screwing around with these guys lol.

On another car, thats a leftover 2023 AND a demo in Texas, the most they will come off MSRP is $2,000 before rebates. I was just on the phone with the guy and his sales manager and I literally said "I just don't see how you can tell me with a straight face that you have 35 2024 S Classes on your lot and the best you can do on a leftover 2023 thats a DEMO is $2,500 off MSRP before rebates. "I understand where you are coming from"...

So, I'm keeping what I've got.
Wow that's crazy. I thought you had a typo when you said 2023 left over. Aren't 2025s already here? They must not have problem selling then. Sometimes keeping what you've got is not a bad move.
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Old 05-07-24, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Nissan has a nice V6 but it's very rev happy and violent, I like it though and it's fun to beat the hell out of
Not the original VQ that I had in my '97 Maxima, or the early 3.5s. Specifically the first 3.0 VQ was rightfully praised, it made Ward's Auto World several years. Magazines gushed over it and said "revs like no other engine this side of a V8 Ferrari" and "world's best throttle response". I've never had a V8 Ferarri lol but it was a rev happy engine and the throttle response was amazing, combined with the 5 speed manual. Gosh, the good old days.

The 190hp VQ was a fabulous engine, smooth as can be and plenty of torque below 2k. Felt way more than 190hp 205 lb/ft.

However the later 3.5s and especially the 3.7s sound and feel horrendous near redline, I definitely agree with you there.

V6s can be great, it's just.... V8s are better.
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Old 05-07-24, 10:51 AM
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MERCEDES!

Needs both batteries, rear airbags and brake fluid exchange. Super good shape otherwise!
nice pick up! any crazy plans for this? i gotta say it's always been my impression that these are something to avoid as they age, and seeing this vid from the car wizard didn't help lol

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Originally Posted by AJT123
V6s can be great, it's just.... V8s are better.
Being a longtime driver and big fan of VQ engines, a V8 is way better.

I guess as displacement rose Nissan couldn't keep the smoothness of the VQ30.


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Originally Posted by 1111GS
Wow that's crazy. I thought you had a typo when you said 2023 left over. Aren't 2025s already here? They must not have problem selling then. Sometimes keeping what you've got is not a bad move.
Its nuts, 25s come in August.

If they would give me $15k off, which leaves them $2,500 in profit before the commission on the lease, plus the $10,750 AMEX rebate, apparently that actually can't be stacked with the $10k dealer cash, then the lease would be $150 more a month than my S560, which is reasonable seeing its an $18,000 more expensive car, but I can't get a dealer to get anywhere near that on these leftover 23s. Even the broker can only get 8% off a 23 (there is 12.5% profit), which is leaving $6k in profit for the dealer before the financing.

I'm going to try again right at the end of the month and see if a dealer will do it to get the unit. Back looking at i7s again too.
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Old 05-07-24, 11:06 AM
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The real benefit of a V6 is that it isn't an I4. That's about it.

I've never driven a Nissan VQ, but I hate them enough based on the sound. They are so annoying and a favorite of the worst people you know to hoon around in.



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Old 05-07-24, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
The real benefit of a V6 is that it isn't an I4. That's about it.

I've never driven a Nissan VQ, but I hate them enough based on the sound. They are so annoying and a favorite of the worst people you know to hoon around in.
Too bad you and others never got to experience a late 90's Maxima with the first 3.0 VQ.. They were fantastic cars and very popular. Remember this was before the SUV takeover so sedans still sold like crazy.

It was literally a poor man's 540i.

142MPH. 6.6 seconds to 60. In 1995.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/1...ima-se-update/

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