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Old 05-08-24, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You’re right, FCP has that listed for the S560…I’ve heard conflicting reports though.
I originally found the part number by searching Mercedes' online parts database. Here's the main "battery" listing with all the associated parts in the system, and here's the actual part listing, showing it being used in AMG S classes from 2007-2021, all "regular" V8 S classes from 2012-2021, and the S450 from 2018-2020 (among other Mercedes models).
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Old 05-08-24, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I believe you!
Lol, wasn't meaning to be argumentative, just showing how I originally found it.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I had a parenting fail kind of evening...

My son (age 9) is getting more and more interested in cars. He loves all cars, but especially supercars. I asked him tonight what he thinks of the LFA. "What's an LFA?" he says. Oh no!!! We're quickly remedying this issue, via YouTube and other Google searches, plus LFA photos I've taken that reside on my phone. How could I have let this happen???
savagegeese love letter to the lfa video is required homework.
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
that 3.0 duratec is utter crap
indeed... i remember rental tauruses with that loud gutless POS. then there was the 4 cyl duratec in the modeos.

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Yeah he was surprised…at least they found it!
wow, serious problem and yeah. glad it's being fixed under warranty! that likely would be VERY expensive to fix.

unless you're striker, seems like a good plan to always have an mb/audi/bmw with a warranty of some kind. my neighbor though, has a bunch of older mb's (including TWO w222's) but he has an indy he trusts and does fine (plus he's loaded anyway, ha).

In other news, since I am struggling with deals and finding S580s and 7 Series…I’m planning on going to drive an LS500 tomorrow…been a long time since I drove one.
i think that's really great you're giving it a shot. i suspect the year by year improvements will have made it a overall better car than earlier years. i think i'd really like one these days... look forward to your report!
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
indeed... i remember rental tauruses with that loud gutless POS. then there was the 4 cyl duratec in the modeos.



wow, serious problem and yeah. glad it's being fixed under warranty! that likely would be VERY expensive to fix.

unless you're striker, seems like a good plan to always have an mb/audi/bmw with a warranty of some kind. my neighbor though, has a bunch of older mb's (including TWO w222's) but he has an indy he trusts and does fine (plus he's loaded anyway, ha).



i think that's really great you're giving it a shot. i suspect the year by year improvements will have made it a overall better car than earlier years. i think i'd really like one these days... look forward to your report!
The funniest things about the "dura"tech 3.0 aside from the sheer number I've worked on and outright replaced is that the sub variants are so numerous and that's it's a Porsche project that got abandoned.

The Aston Martin V12 is literally two of these slapped together and having some parts commonality and the Jag AJ V6 series used a duratech bottom end.....that liked to spin rod bearings as is the ford way. My jag has this exact issue occur, the jag top end nearly never has issues but the bottom end is known to have rod bearing failure in all applications for various reasons.

The irony of what cars technially use aspects of the 3.0 dura and what issues they have really make you question some of these brands decisions. I will say that the jag versions actually all sound and feel good, far better than any ford or Mazda version. Aston version is a 12 so obviously it has a vastly different/superior feel, pain to access stuff though.

With both cosworth and Porsche involved you would think it would have been one of the all time greats but IMO it's clear why Porsche abandoned/sold it.
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Old 05-08-24, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Lol, wasn't meaning to be argumentative, just showing how I originally found it.
Didn't take it as argumentative at all no worries lol

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wow, serious problem and yeah. glad it's being fixed under warranty! that likely would be VERY expensive to fix.
VERY lol

unless you're striker, seems like a good plan to always have an mb/audi/bmw with a warranty of some kind. my neighbor though, has a bunch of older mb's (including TWO w222's) but he has an indy he trusts and does fine (plus he's loaded anyway, ha).
Yeah I wouldn't want to own it without a warranty...

i think that's really great you're giving it a shot. i suspect the year by year improvements will have made it a overall better car than earlier years. i think i'd really like one these days... look forward to your report!


Not going to get to it today unfortunately...will report back for sure.

I was also going to look at a G90 but the leases on them are terrible, only $150 or so less than a $140k S Class.
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Old 05-08-24, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS

I was also going to look at a G90 but the leases on them are terrible, only $150 or so less than a $140k S Class.
Well, that may not sound like much at first, but, adding up, it's a good $1800 yearly savings on the lease.....probably enough for you and your family to take another trip down to Disney World.
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I think a trip to Disney world runs closer to $7000 for a family today.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
it's a good $1800 yearly savings on the lease.....probably enough for you and your family to take another trip down to Disney World.
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I think a trip to Disney world runs closer to $7000 for a family today.
haha... talk about a reality check.
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It's more expensive for a family of four to go to Disney for a week than to Hawaii for 2 weeks.

And that was years ago before prices for everything went up.
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That $7,000 is a wild guess. So correct me if I’m wrong! Lol
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
That $7,000 is a wild guess. So correct me if I’m wrong! Lol
You're not wrong. They're currently running a promotion that would allow you to buy 4 days' worth of tickets for 4 people for $1600. Regular price for that is about $2400, or $2800 if you want to visit more than one park per day. A single-day, single-park ticket for 4 runs right around $600.

Then another $2400 or so for a week at a "Moderate" resort, you're at 4 grand before you even show up, or $5k if you didn't score the promo. Want something fancy like the Boardwalk and that $7,000 only covers the room.
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Old 05-08-24, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, that may not sound like much at first, but, adding up, it's a good $1800 yearly savings on the lease.....probably enough for you and your family to take another trip down to Disney World.
Something isn't a better value just because its cheaper. $1,800 less a year for a $100,000 G90 is not a better value than $1,800 more a year for a $140,000 S580 lol. The S580 is a better value despite being cheaper.

Paying less for less is not value...its just less.

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I think a trip to Disney world runs closer to $7000 for a family today.
Oh, at least! Doesn't cost me much though so Mike is actually right lol, we own DVC and have Annual Passes so we don't pay for lodging or tickets (well, we pay $4,000 a year for tickets but we already have the tickets), and flights I use AMEX points for. So it costs us food, and a car rental...so he's about right...
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May have hit paydirt. I have a broker I reached out to that had some good payments, we'll see...
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