General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
05-31-24, 07:45 AM
#4246
Lexus Fanatic
It’s the same engine, the complexity is what causes the manufacturing issue
05-31-24, 10:54 AM
#4252
Lexus Fanatic
Not being anti-Lexus at all. This engine won’t be as reliable as the old V8s though. It’s just too complex to be. Much more expensive to work on too.
Last edited by SW17LS; 05-31-24 at 10:58 AM.
05-31-24, 11:11 AM
#4257
Lexus Test Driver
Making honest and fair criticisms of Toyota isn't being anti-Lexus. The man has arguably given Toyota/Lexus more money than you have given them.
The simple fact of the matter is that Toyota's quality is not what it used to be in the 90's and 2000's. They got complacent and they are paying the price for that right now. The 3rd gen Tacoma had a number of common issues, now the new engine for their larger vehicles is having catastrophic failures left and right. That's not okay when you spend $60-80k on a vehicle and the engine keeps throwing bearings. What's worse is that turbo V6's in trucks are no longer a new concept. There are millions of ecoboost F-150's on the road now and they managed to make it work.
The simple fact of the matter is that Toyota's quality is not what it used to be in the 90's and 2000's. They got complacent and they are paying the price for that right now. The 3rd gen Tacoma had a number of common issues, now the new engine for their larger vehicles is having catastrophic failures left and right. That's not okay when you spend $60-80k on a vehicle and the engine keeps throwing bearings. What's worse is that turbo V6's in trucks are no longer a new concept. There are millions of ecoboost F-150's on the road now and they managed to make it work.
05-31-24, 11:17 AM
#4259
Lexus Fanatic
it is anti-Lexus when there is no acknowledgement of a manufacturing defect vs the claim that the problem is because the engine is overly complicated. I agree the engine is complex. But, that is how technology progresses. My 1GR engine is far more complicated over my 2UZ for the simply fact of variable valve timing and other tech, I also believe the braking is similar to the LS460 set up..but I’m not sure. You never got back to me when I replied on the 4.0 vs 3.5tt.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 05-31-24 at 11:21 AM.
05-31-24, 11:21 AM
#4260
it is anti-Lexus when there is no acknowledgement of a manufacturing defect vs a problem because the engine is overly complicated. I agree the engine is complex. But, that is how technology progresses. My 1GR engine is far more complicated over my 2UZ for the simply fact of variable valve timing and other tech, I also vehicle the braking is similar to the LS460 set up..but I’m not sure. You never got back to me when I replied on the 4.0 vs 3.5tt.