General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#4846
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We were talking about the Chrysler Fifth Avenue, check out what Bill from Curious Cars just dropped. My dads was this same color but with a light gray interior. His was an 87 that had no driver airbag.
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#4848
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Yep.....The Volare/Aspen chassis spawned the Dodge Diplomat, Plymouth Gran Fury, Chrysler (RWD) Lebanon, Chrysler Fifth Avenue, and early-80s Chrysler New Yorker.
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#4849
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All my Pacificas have been FWD, hate the FWD on all of them and the ES. Lights the front tires up at a stoplight in the rain even. None of those vehicles is/were great in the snow.
We were talking about the Chrysler Fifth Avenue, check out what Bill from Curious Cars just dropped. My dads was this same color but with a light gray interior. His was an 87 that had no driver airbag.
https://youtu.be/KFZeYXafBQ8?si=xF28h-glVxsUwrSp
We were talking about the Chrysler Fifth Avenue, check out what Bill from Curious Cars just dropped. My dads was this same color but with a light gray interior. His was an 87 that had no driver airbag.
https://youtu.be/KFZeYXafBQ8?si=xF28h-glVxsUwrSp
Those post-Volare/Aspen RWD Chryslers were nice cars, but not particularly well-assembled. Still, better than their FWD replacements. I had a 1983 K-car-based/FWD Chrysler Lebaron that was impressively plush inside and out from a comfort standpoint, and I loved the crystal Pentastar hood ornament. But, mechanically, the car was a piece of junk....one of the most unreliable cars I ever owned. I only kept it a year and traded it on a new '84 Mazda.
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A few things to note from the Fifth Avenue.
-that row of single window buttons is an ergonomic disaster, how are you supposed to know which window your pressing?!
-it has a power seat bottom but manual recline.
-that landau top covering the quarter windows in the back is a disgrace, and it reduces visibility.
-that interior is over-the-top and looks like it’s stuck in the 70s, but I like it. Casket pull handles. And they’re hinged! Big plush leather seats with buttons in the middle. It seems weird seeing an airbag in an interior that looks like that.
-I love the pentastar hood ornament and the way it sparkles. The gauges look pretty at night too.
-that row of single window buttons is an ergonomic disaster, how are you supposed to know which window your pressing?!
-it has a power seat bottom but manual recline.
-that landau top covering the quarter windows in the back is a disgrace, and it reduces visibility.
-that interior is over-the-top and looks like it’s stuck in the 70s, but I like it. Casket pull handles. And they’re hinged! Big plush leather seats with buttons in the middle. It seems weird seeing an airbag in an interior that looks like that.
-I love the pentastar hood ornament and the way it sparkles. The gauges look pretty at night too.
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#4851
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Yep.....airbags did not become widespread until the mid-1990s, when they were first federally required.
Those post-Volare/Aspen RWD Chryslers were nice cars, but not particularly well-assembled. Still, better than their FWD replacements. I had a 1983 K-car-based/FWD Chrysler Lebaron that was impressively plush inside and out from a comfort standpoint, and I loved the crystal Pentastar hood ornament. But, mechanically, the car was a piece of junk....one of the most unreliable cars I ever owned. I only kept it a year and traded it on a new '84 Mazda.
Those post-Volare/Aspen RWD Chryslers were nice cars, but not particularly well-assembled. Still, better than their FWD replacements. I had a 1983 K-car-based/FWD Chrysler Lebaron that was impressively plush inside and out from a comfort standpoint, and I loved the crystal Pentastar hood ornament. But, mechanically, the car was a piece of junk....one of the most unreliable cars I ever owned. I only kept it a year and traded it on a new '84 Mazda.
They didn't age well at all.
Saw a gazillion of them on the roads and the buy here-pay here car lots loved them because you could buy them for almost nothing.
Cheap transportation, if you could keep it running. Haha
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A few things to note from the Fifth Avenue.
-that row of single window buttons is an ergonomic disaster, how are you supposed to know which window your pressing?!
-it has a power seat bottom but manual recline.
-that landau top covering the quarter windows in the back is a disgrace, and it reduces visibility.
-that interior is over-the-top and looks like it’s stuck in the 70s, but I like it. Casket pull handles. And they’re hinged! Big plush leather seats with buttons in the middle. It seems weird seeing an airbag in an interior that looks like that.
-I love the pentastar hood ornament and the way it sparkles. The gauges look pretty at night too.
-that row of single window buttons is an ergonomic disaster, how are you supposed to know which window your pressing?!
-it has a power seat bottom but manual recline.
-that landau top covering the quarter windows in the back is a disgrace, and it reduces visibility.
-that interior is over-the-top and looks like it’s stuck in the 70s, but I like it. Casket pull handles. And they’re hinged! Big plush leather seats with buttons in the middle. It seems weird seeing an airbag in an interior that looks like that.
-I love the pentastar hood ornament and the way it sparkles. The gauges look pretty at night too.
The steering wheel without the airbag also had a crystal chrysler emblem
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I remember when I was a kid I used to sit between my Mom and Dad in the middle seat...really enjoyable watching that video, and that car is almost certainly the nicest Fifth Avenue in the country,
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Speaking of questionable quality pentastar products, there is a mint 1 owner 1987 Reliant K for sale near me. I'm tempted to buy it and build out a 2.5 to the limit or K swap it or something stupid like that....
A 2000lb car is a death trap but it can be stupid fun
A 2000lb car is a death trap but it can be stupid fun
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I was born in 94. So by the time I was old enough to pay attention to cars most of the original K cars had been crushed. There was still plenty of the early 90s versions though, the Dodge Spirit, Dynasty, Chrysler Lebaron, New Yorker, and the Plymouth Acclaim.
That steering wheel looks much nicer than the airbag one. I bet that interior looked nicer in light gray.
That steering wheel looks much nicer than the airbag one. I bet that interior looked nicer in light gray.
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It could be fun but also a money pit. 🤓
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had to run a couple of errands today and decided to take the LC. got some love on the route. ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
stopped one place a huge van pulled in behind. driver was out of the vehicle when i got out and he said "that's the prettiest car on the road."
then he said "and sounds awesome too". i laughed and said thanks.
then went to my barber for only the second time recently after years of break due to covid and just using clippers myself... and we were talking cars and i said "yeah, i'm driving my 'covid car' today... got it because wasn't sure what the future held during the dark days there or if we'd have another, worse, pandemic in the future." he wanted to see it so we went out and he had no idea what it was, but was drooling over it, haha.
then pulled up to a light and two guys on huge custom harleys were next to me and one yelled at me (not mad) and i opened the window. he said "you wanna do a trade?" i laughed and he said "that's great how many horsepower?!" i told him and off i zoomed with some cracking shifts.![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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stopped one place a huge van pulled in behind. driver was out of the vehicle when i got out and he said "that's the prettiest car on the road."
![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
then went to my barber for only the second time recently after years of break due to covid and just using clippers myself... and we were talking cars and i said "yeah, i'm driving my 'covid car' today... got it because wasn't sure what the future held during the dark days there or if we'd have another, worse, pandemic in the future." he wanted to see it so we went out and he had no idea what it was, but was drooling over it, haha.
then pulled up to a light and two guys on huge custom harleys were next to me and one yelled at me (not mad) and i opened the window. he said "you wanna do a trade?" i laughed and he said "that's great how many horsepower?!" i told him and off i zoomed with some cracking shifts.
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And whats funnier about the row of buttons is the buttons at the top are the rear windows! What sense does that make? LOL.
The steering wheel without the airbag also had a crystal chrysler emblem
![](https://www.classicmotorcarsonline.com/wp-content/cars/2014/04/13-gigapixel-standard-scale-2_40x-80.jpg)
I remember when I was a kid I used to sit between my Mom and Dad in the middle seat...really enjoyable watching that video, and that car is almost certainly the nicest Fifth Avenue in the country,
The steering wheel without the airbag also had a crystal chrysler emblem
![](https://www.classicmotorcarsonline.com/wp-content/cars/2014/04/13-gigapixel-standard-scale-2_40x-80.jpg)
I remember when I was a kid I used to sit between my Mom and Dad in the middle seat...really enjoyable watching that video, and that car is almost certainly the nicest Fifth Avenue in the country,
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