General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
06-26-24, 04:40 AM
#4996
Lead Lap
I think we have a deal...$335 more a month than what I am paying. Don't feel great about it, but all things considered its probably the best outcome.
Its selenite grey with a black interior, has the exclusive nappa interior which is the one thing I always wished mine had, that gets leather covering everything and the suede headliner.
Yep, new S580 lease.
Its selenite grey with a black interior, has the exclusive nappa interior which is the one thing I always wished mine had, that gets leather covering everything and the suede headliner.
Yep, new S580 lease.
I don’t know what the AMG package looks like, does this car have it? I do like the wheels and they will be easy to clean.
06-26-24, 05:09 AM
#4997
Lexus Fanatic
What is the MF on it? I would imagine that may be a big difference compared to where you were on your old lease. On the Cayenne if I lease the MF equates to over 9% but I think the residual is high to offset it a little. I’ll run the numbers when the time comes to determine if I lease or buy but would prefer to lease if it makes sense.
I don’t know what the AMG package looks like, does this car have it? I do like the wheels and they will be easy to clean.
I don’t know what the AMG package looks like, does this car have it? I do like the wheels and they will be easy to clean.
demeanor changed when I called him on that. I went back and said you give me the retail MF then you have a deal and they said no. It’s about $19 a month. “Yes it is, It’s totally reasonable to mark that up to .0018”. F you lol
What I hate is the lack of transparency. Give me real numbers without hiding numbers. They’re still making about $3,500 on the car and the same car as mine with slightly more mileage is on their lot for $8,000 more than they are giving me for mine, so this is not a profit less deal.
To me that’s the difference between honest dealers and dishonest dealers. I’ve only paid an inflated MF one other time, on my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that was a zero deal, that salesman too totally turned into a ***** after I called him on the MF. I think it’s that they know they’ve been caught being sneaky. I will probably do it anyways because this car is an option package that is unusual, most cars with the exclusive Napa are also so highly optioned in other ways I don’t want the price is $145k+ even $150k. This car is exactly how I would have ordered it, exclusive Napa without the 3D gauges or the 3D HUD, no rear wheel steer. He’s going to hear about it on the survey though.
Last edited by SW17LS; 06-26-24 at 05:18 AM.
06-26-24, 05:31 AM
#4998
We're about $50 apart. They're agreeing to take mine in on trade instead of turning it in, which relieves me of the excess mileage and runflats. Honestly I would have just done it but the guy was a little nasty to me, so he can worry about it all night and we'll talk again in the morning. They're marking up the MF and I called him on it and he didn't appreciate that
The retail MF is .0017 and they’re marking it up to .0018, he got “special approval” to only screw me by .0010. So not terrible, it’s like 4.2%. His whole
demeanor changed when I called him on that. I went back and said you give me the retail MF then you have a deal and they said no. It’s about $19 a month. “Yes it is, It’s totally reasonable to mark that up to .0018”. F you lol
What I hate is the lack of transparency. Give me real numbers without hiding numbers. They’re still making about $3,500 on the car and the same car as mine with slightly more mileage is on their lot for $8,000 more than they are giving me for mine, so this is not a profit less deal.
To me that’s the difference between honest dealers and dishonest dealers. I’ve only paid an inflated MF one other time, on my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that was a zero deal, that salesman too totally turned into a ***** after I called him on the MF. I think it’s that they know they’ve been caught being sneaky. I will probably do it anyways because this car is an option package that is unusual, most cars with the exclusive Napa are also so highly optioned in other ways I don’t want the price is $145k+ even $150k. This car is exactly how I would have ordered it, exclusive Napa without the 3D gauges or the 3D HUD, no rear wheel steer. He’s going to hear about it on the survey though.
demeanor changed when I called him on that. I went back and said you give me the retail MF then you have a deal and they said no. It’s about $19 a month. “Yes it is, It’s totally reasonable to mark that up to .0018”. F you lol
What I hate is the lack of transparency. Give me real numbers without hiding numbers. They’re still making about $3,500 on the car and the same car as mine with slightly more mileage is on their lot for $8,000 more than they are giving me for mine, so this is not a profit less deal.
To me that’s the difference between honest dealers and dishonest dealers. I’ve only paid an inflated MF one other time, on my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that was a zero deal, that salesman too totally turned into a ***** after I called him on the MF. I think it’s that they know they’ve been caught being sneaky. I will probably do it anyways because this car is an option package that is unusual, most cars with the exclusive Napa are also so highly optioned in other ways I don’t want the price is $145k+ even $150k. This car is exactly how I would have ordered it, exclusive Napa without the 3D gauges or the 3D HUD, no rear wheel steer. He’s going to hear about it on the survey though.
06-26-24, 07:17 AM
#4999
Lexus Fanatic
No. Horrible. I have literally been working on this for 4 months, I have negotiated with at least 4 different dealers...
I just paid them a deposit, so hopefully they can secure the car and get it up here. Its in Kentucky.
I just paid them a deposit, so hopefully they can secure the car and get it up here. Its in Kentucky.
06-26-24, 07:30 AM
#5002
The new generation of Benz sedans are quite impressive, I'm happy to hear you like the C as much as you do. I've considered them on and off and am really interested in a CLE450 Cab at some point.
Good luck on the pending deal!
Good luck on the pending deal!
06-26-24, 07:32 AM
#5003
Pole Position
Highlighting that you know their buy rate and that you caught them surreptitiously marking up the MF is never a bad idea, it lets them know they are not dealing with an amateur and tends to put a stop to most of the deal shenanigans.
Keep us posted and good luck! Car looks great!
Keep us posted and good luck! Car looks great!
06-26-24, 07:43 AM
#5005
Lexus Fanatic
Thanks guys, until its in the driveway I don't consider it a done deal lol
Yeah I am really impressed with the C. It rides great despite being on really low profile tires. They have a CLE cab on the showroom floor, it looks great...
. Those AMG style wheels are beautiful. Good luck on the deal.
06-26-24, 07:54 AM
#5007
Lead Lap
The retail MF is .0017 and they’re marking it up to .0018, he got “special approval” to only screw me by .0010. So not terrible, it’s like 4.2%. His whole
demeanor changed when I called him on that. I went back and said you give me the retail MF then you have a deal and they said no. It’s about $19 a month. “Yes it is, It’s totally reasonable to mark that up to .0018”. F you lol
What I hate is the lack of transparency. Give me real numbers without hiding numbers. They’re still making about $3,500 on the car and the same car as mine with slightly more mileage is on their lot for $8,000 more than they are giving me for mine, so this is not a profit less deal.
To me that’s the difference between honest dealers and dishonest dealers. I’ve only paid an inflated MF one other time, on my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that was a zero deal, that salesman too totally turned into a ***** after I called him on the MF. I think it’s that they know they’ve been caught being sneaky. I will probably do it anyways because this car is an option package that is unusual, most cars with the exclusive Napa are also so highly optioned in other ways I don’t want the price is $145k+ even $150k. This car is exactly how I would have ordered it, exclusive Napa without the 3D gauges or the 3D HUD, no rear wheel steer. He’s going to hear about it on the survey though.
demeanor changed when I called him on that. I went back and said you give me the retail MF then you have a deal and they said no. It’s about $19 a month. “Yes it is, It’s totally reasonable to mark that up to .0018”. F you lol
What I hate is the lack of transparency. Give me real numbers without hiding numbers. They’re still making about $3,500 on the car and the same car as mine with slightly more mileage is on their lot for $8,000 more than they are giving me for mine, so this is not a profit less deal.
To me that’s the difference between honest dealers and dishonest dealers. I’ve only paid an inflated MF one other time, on my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that was a zero deal, that salesman too totally turned into a ***** after I called him on the MF. I think it’s that they know they’ve been caught being sneaky. I will probably do it anyways because this car is an option package that is unusual, most cars with the exclusive Napa are also so highly optioned in other ways I don’t want the price is $145k+ even $150k. This car is exactly how I would have ordered it, exclusive Napa without the 3D gauges or the 3D HUD, no rear wheel steer. He’s going to hear about it on the survey though.
06-26-24, 07:56 AM
#5008
06-26-24, 09:36 AM
#5009
Lexus Fanatic
But it still has primitive part-time 4WD
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 06-26-24 at 09:51 AM.
06-26-24, 09:38 AM
#5010
Lexus Test Driver
You negotiate hard but always willing to walk away if the deal is not a win.
