General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#5071
Lexus Champion
Well to be fair, they did update it in 2016 when it went from the 2GR-FSE to the 2GR-FKS. I've had both and found the FKS to be a lot smoother and quieter. It's slightly more efficient with the inclusion of the Atkinson cycle under low load. Sadly, it only gained 5 hp (311 vs 306).
#5072
Lexus Fanatic
But the long-term reliability of those early turbo BMWs has been poor. The common issues are aplenty. There is an oil leak that causes belts to slip, which causes the front main seal to fail, which clogs the oil pickup with rubber, thereby starving the engine of oil and blowing the engine. The cutting-edge piezoelectric fuel injectors (meant for European models that lean-burn, not for us in the U.S.) have a tendency to stop injecting fuel, as does the high-pressure fuel pump. Valve covers crack and leak. The twin Mitsubishi TD03 turbos explode with regularity, and the wastegates rattle.
#5073
Lexus Champion
Good for BMW but it looks like the N54 has lots of problems.
https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-...-more-reliable
https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-...-more-reliable
#5075
Look where they are now with the B58. It's universally praised as an amazing engine and reliability does not seem to be an issue. BMW did an outstanding job here.
#5076
Lexus Fanatic
2GR-FE
2GR-FKS
2GR-FSE
2GR-FXE
2GR-FXS
2GR-FZE (factory Toyota supercharged)
Look where they are now with the B58. It's universally praised as an amazing engine and reliability does not seem to be an issue. BMW did an outstanding job here.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 06-27-24 at 10:44 AM.
#5077
So I heard from the dealer, this is actually kind of cool.
The car has 1,100 miles on it because its one of 6 identical spec cars that was used in Las Vegas to drive the Mercedes team F1 drivers around while they were there for the F1 race. There is a $2,500 rebate on the car from Mercedes which is great. I told him to make sure to vacuum all the cocaine out of the carpets and we will be good haha
The car has 1,100 miles on it because its one of 6 identical spec cars that was used in Las Vegas to drive the Mercedes team F1 drivers around while they were there for the F1 race. There is a $2,500 rebate on the car from Mercedes which is great. I told him to make sure to vacuum all the cocaine out of the carpets and we will be good haha
We went to F1 Weekend in Miami this year and it was a blast. Highly recommend attending an F1 race, it's like the Super Bowl for car fans!!
#5078
Lexus Fanatic
Signed the handwritten lease disclosure today and the car is on the way!
#5079
‘But that is not true. The 2GR ranges from having 245HP to up to 316HP in naturally aspirated for, updated numerous times. Supercharged 2GR motors used in Lotus sports cars hit 430HP. There was even a 2GR 4.0litre used in the 24 Le Mans (for Lotus) making 470HP naturally aspirated. So when you say they did nothing is simply not true.
I'm talking updates for mass market consumers to stay competitive with the Germans. The 2GR got one minor update that JDR mentioned in 2016. It was so minor I forgot about it lol.
#5080
Lexus Fanatic
You're bringing up a highly modified race engine used only for Le Mans as a 2GR update? Come on.
Yet the 2UR engine in the IS500 received how many updates? Not everyone wants a German car or motor.
#5082
Lexus Fanatic
just like some accept the 2UR and how old it is, some accept the 2GR for what it is.
#5083
Lexus Test Driver
The 2GR is jammed in the engine bay sideways so tight on the RX350's, you have to drop the whole engine to get access to the timing chain or pull a cylinder head
My next SUV will be rwd with the engine going the proper direction.
#5084
Lexus Fanatic
I care about serviceability more than HP usually.
The 2GR is jammed in the engine bay sideways so tight on the RX350's, you have to drop the whole engine to get access to the timing chain or pull a cylinder head
My next SUV will be rwd with the engine going the proper direction.
The 2GR is jammed in the engine bay sideways so tight on the RX350's, you have to drop the whole engine to get access to the timing chain or pull a cylinder head
My next SUV will be rwd with the engine going the proper direction.