General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#496
Lexus Fanatic
Depending on where you are in the VA suburbs, it isn't much different.
Part of the problem is that, especially in the last few years, an enormous number of immigrants have come in from tropical countries, and have never even seen snow in their lives, much less know how to drive in it.
And part of the problem is simply a lack of patience...nobody wants to slow down, even when roads are slick. They think that, in modern vehicles, all the electronic traction-aids will save them...but it often doesn't work that way. Tires only have so much traction, no matter how many electronic traction-aids you have, and one cannot overrule the laws of physics.
Part of the problem is that, especially in the last few years, an enormous number of immigrants have come in from tropical countries, and have never even seen snow in their lives, much less know how to drive in it.
And part of the problem is simply a lack of patience...nobody wants to slow down, even when roads are slick. They think that, in modern vehicles, all the electronic traction-aids will save them...but it often doesn't work that way. Tires only have so much traction, no matter how many electronic traction-aids you have, and one cannot overrule the laws of physics.
Last edited by mmarshall; 01-16-24 at 05:57 PM.
#497
Lexus Fanatic
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jdr, way to go cleaning your cars IN your garage... how do you do that without getting water/mess everywhere?
#499
Lexus Champion
#501
Lexus Fanatic
ONR in a garage works great…
I looked this up too after I heard it, the NOAA doesn’t use all of the coastal area, their number is less than half the number that qualifies is as the most coastline in the country.
This is all just pointless goofiness obviously lol
i'll go back to the cars in a sec lol but here's a table from the ever reliable wikipedia
so yes maryland does have the highest coastal ratio, but even using the NOAA method it's way below the most overall
https://coast.noaa.gov/data/docs/states/shorelines.pdf
gonna give myself a pat on the back though i said florida before even going to that page haha
so yes maryland does have the highest coastal ratio, but even using the NOAA method it's way below the most overall
https://coast.noaa.gov/data/docs/states/shorelines.pdf
gonna give myself a pat on the back though i said florida before even going to that page haha
This is all just pointless goofiness obviously lol
#502
Bringing it back to cars I’m surprised at how well my GS RWD did in the snow this morning. I have the Continental extreme contact DWS and I put it in snow mode. It did pretty good. Although the traction control had to work mighty hard in turns to get the power down and not tail slide.
The first time I drove it in the snow last year it did terrible. But I think there was some ice involved that time. I barely made it home, and it just kept spinning its tires, same tires too. Also Sunday when the snow was falling it didn’t too well, I guess it’s picky about what type of snow I drive it on. Lol
The first time I drove it in the snow last year it did terrible. But I think there was some ice involved that time. I barely made it home, and it just kept spinning its tires, same tires too. Also Sunday when the snow was falling it didn’t too well, I guess it’s picky about what type of snow I drive it on. Lol
#503
Lexus Fanatic
Lexus's RWD based AWD system is great. My S560 is not quite as stable in the snow as my AWD LS460 or my AWD GS350 were, I think its because of the wide rear tires. The Lexus just would never oversteer unless you turned the VSC off, and the Mercedes if you're turning and you give it a little gas it wants to let the rear step right out, so you have to be a little more careful
#504
Lead Lap
My uncle said when he lived in Denver, he would just clean the interior, windshield, and hood during the Winter.
#505
Lexus Test Driver
Lexus's RWD based AWD system is great. My S560 is not quite as stable in the snow as my AWD LS460 or my AWD GS350 were, I think its because of the wide rear tires. The Lexus just would never oversteer unless you turned the VSC off, and the Mercedes if you're turning and you give it a little gas it wants to let the rear step right out, so you have to be a little more careful
#507
Lexus Champion
TC can only react to an issue after it begins, it also has a harder time with a spike like engine TQ curve and you also have staggered tires correct? That's again more difficult to manage output, does your car have ability to electronically control the center diff or is it a mechanical reactive only? Again if pure mechanical it will have slight delay and tend to slam power around a little when you have a lot of it.
They are both still insanely good in the snow, best cars I've ever used for it actually and the W12s TVD and active steering allows casual 4 wheel drifting with full control of your line etc.
#508
Lexus Fanatic
I don’t think that’s the issue here. We’re talking about a very low speed left turn where the slightest bit of throttle brings the rear around, the skid control system should step in and stop that
Its not a big deal but if you didn’t know how to control an oversteer skid you’d be in trouble
Its not a big deal but if you didn’t know how to control an oversteer skid you’d be in trouble
#509
Lexus Champion
I don’t think that’s the issue here. We’re talking about a very low speed left turn where the slightest bit of throttle brings the rear around, the skid control system should step in and stop that
Its not a big deal but if you didn’t know how to control an oversteer skid you’d be in trouble
Its not a big deal but if you didn’t know how to control an oversteer skid you’d be in trouble
Try an Audi, it's almost boring since the car simply will not step out like that unless you want it to.
#510
Lexus Fanatic
But my RWD/AWD LS460 didn’t have that issue, either Lexus’ skid control is better or it’s the wider tires