General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#5371
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AMG is a marque that is supposed to mean a car has high performance modification and improvements that set it at a different level than an ordinary Mercedes. My S580 has the AMG appearance package which is just sportier bumpers and wheels and body cladding, it doesn't have any performance improvements. Putting the AMG badge on an ordinary Mercedes dilutes the brand.
THIS is an AMG S Class:
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THIS is an AMG S Class:
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Dude. That car is insanely rad.
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#5373
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It just doesn’t look like an S Class to me without the hood ornament. Should be an option to have it either way.
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#5377
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AMG is a marque that is supposed to mean a car has high performance modification and improvements that set it at a different level than an ordinary Mercedes. My S580 has the AMG appearance package which is just sportier bumpers and wheels and body cladding, it doesn't have any performance improvements. Putting the AMG badge on an ordinary Mercedes dilutes the brand.
THIS is an AMG S Class:
THIS is an AMG S Class:
But that still doesn't negate what I was saying about floor mats. You may personally like or dislike the way they look, or what kind of logo is on them, but, in the end, all they do is protect the underlying carpet and serve as something to put your shoes on. Having said that, though, in general, I recommend the all-rubber or all-vinyl ones......they are usually much easier to clean, particularly in darker colors, and don't get as soiled in bad weather.
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#5379
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Hey....at times, in life, we all get treated like them.
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Personally, though, I wouldn't have a vehicle without rubber mats...IMO the fabric ones are just too hard to clean.
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#5380
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The point is Mercedes and BMW over using the AMG and M brands is ultimately self defeating.
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#5381
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I won't argue that, although some people may like having the AMG and M visuals and trim without all that extra cost for the upgraded powertrains and underpinnings. The AMG engines, in particular, are expensive because they are hand-built....a Technician at the factory personally signs off on each one.
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#5382
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When I ordered my '24 X3 I got the M Sport Package it was the only way to get the wheels and some exterior and interior trim that we wanted. I initially felt a bit like a poser but since I was ordering it there were a few must have things that required it. I do think that BMW, MB, Audi etc. are overdoing it a bit with their M Sport, AMG and S Line offerings.
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#5383
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I won't argue that, although some people may like having the AMG and M visuals and trim without all that extra cost for the upgraded powertrains and underpinnings. The AMG engines, in particular, are expensive because they are hand-built....a Technician at the factory personally signs off on each one.
And again, you don’t think I know what makes AMG engines expensive and that a technician signs off on each one? Come on lol
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#5384
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(The Pontiac Trans-Am, of course, also kept its flashy looks, but, unlike the other de-masculated cars of the era, still kept a fair amount of power as its standard engine)
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And again, you don’t think I know what makes AMG engines expensive and that a technician signs off on each one? Come on lol
You may, but others in this thread (may?) not. I don't always post just for one person only.
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#5385
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This is an enthusiast site. Everybody here knows what an AMG vehicle is. Please give us the benefit of the doubt.
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