Stroock639

oh yea look at that the power did go up for the later model years




the peak torque is at 500 rpm higher too so def looks like bigger turbos... that's good info to know for anyone looking to pick one of these up at some point lol

i suspect that 385 hp is probably underrated too, especially considering the new C43 (which is an AMG lmao) has "more" power but gets consistently outgunned by the previous V6 model... that is assuming the W206's engine hasn't yet become clogged with sand in the coolant

FrankReynoldsCPA

Nissan/Infiniti products don't appeal to me at all. If I was in the market for a large BOF SUV, I would be shopping domestic.

Carfan94

I actually liked the C400 without all the tacky AMG bling….. oh you want the sport (not AMG!) trim now you are saddled with a 4 cyl only..

TangoRed

No one bought the C400 though. The C450/C43 didn't just get bling, they got a different AWD system and suspension. They drove very differently and sales increased.

Stroock639

oh yes, the suspension is why sales increased...



actually almost all C43 reviews i've seen listed harsh ride as one of the downsides, everyone praises the engine though

Carfan94

I guess I’m oddball then. I just like the bigger engine with the understated elegance and softer suspension tune. I have no interest in owning a vehicle with red seat belts, red brake calipers, carbon fiber trim, And AMG badges smattered everywhere.

TangoRed

It wasn't just the badge and wasn't just the suspension. It was harsh (got better in 2019 and beyond) but the handling was dramatically better than the C400. It was much more aggressively tuned overall and you got some the AMG elements like an available performance exhaust.

In any event, their strategy got what they wanted which was more profit off the same number of models.

SW17LS

Like the LX it is shorter which is appealing.

Same. For example I want a V8 A8, not an S8…

TangoRed

I get it. You're just a small population for the C-class. Enough E-class buyers exist that fit your profile, which is why we still get regular V6 (W213)/I6 (W214) E-class models.

Stroock639

yes it's a great strategy for increasing immediate profits, i just don't think it's good for long term...

as letterman would say during the 2010 tonight show debacle between leno and conan: don't kid yourself folks, if those executives didn't know what they were doing they wouldn't be there! /s

TangoRed

How long are we talking? It's already been 7 years lol.

If anything, I'm curious to see how these standalone electric AMGs turn out on the amg.ea platform. 2025 will be interesting...

AJT123

Tsk tsk.... I'll die in a good way if you end up in one of those.

Striker223

Yes. It's just using an otherwise normal "top" tier non-AMG engine that they already had in the C450 and just renamed the exact same car to C43

AJT123

All I know is, I can't find sales figures at all anywhere for the 4700lb C63 S 4 cylinder with 2000 horsepower that nobody wants.

Striker223

Oh just try the S8 with the predictive ride system.....it's great. No A8 will be like the S class for smoothness unless you get a base version without any of the performance extras