General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#783
Lexus Test Driver
At least you can do it in the car
As ya'll know, on the fwd cars they jam the V-6 in sideways with the timing cover up against the frame.
No way to do the job without pulling the engine!
That's why I don't want one.
As ya'll know, on the fwd cars they jam the V-6 in sideways with the timing cover up against the frame.
No way to do the job without pulling the engine!
That's why I don't want one.
#786
Lexus Champion
Yeah, any of the ford or Chevy V6s need to be dropped out to do this and they tend to need it more often than Toyota.
#788
Lexus Champion
No it's not even 1/3 as bad. Plus belts in practice last just as long, I've replaced dozens of belts that were at 2x interval. So many ignore them until the water pump starts leaking it's astounding
#789
Lexus Test Driver
My car is old, back before timing chains were invented.
I made that up. Lol.
Ps, I can replace my timingchain belt in 2 hours.
And, a pro that does it often can probably do it in an hour flat.
I made that up. Lol.
Ps, I can replace my timing
And, a pro that does it often can probably do it in an hour flat.
Last edited by Margate330; 01-27-24 at 11:48 AM.
#791
Lexus Champion
Its typical to have about this much, the really bad ones that have actually skipped time usually have a bit more but that picture is after I already cleaned it. Most engines will have about what you see there at those miles unless you always use high end oil at 5k intervals.
#792
Lexus Fanatic
@Carfan94 it has Bridgestone Duelers.
I think driving a vehicle around for a week and gives me a pretty good idea whether I like it or not lol
Turned the QX80 in, sitting at the airport. I never fully adjusted to the lack of on center feel, driving back to the airport on the highway we were eating and you take your eyes off the road for a second and its all over the place. I love the ride in a straight line, its super well isolated from the road and the outside world, but as soon as you hit any sort of corner with any kind of speed, what it is makes itself very well known with lots of leans and complaints from the wife about taking ramps too fast (which I never hear in our cars). Seats are also wide and flat and have very little lateral support. Engine is very refined and has a great big V8 feel, but requires heavy throttle and multiple downshifts to get any power for a passing manuever, etc. Like I said before, hard to go back to a NA V8 once you're used to turbos.
Short of the on center feel a great highway cruiser, but like I thought not something I would want to pilot around every day, no ability to move quickly in and around traffic and all like I do every day, etc. I'll drive an LX extensively but unless that is dramatically different I think if I do an SUV it would have to be a unibody style one that has a more carlike drivability.
Turned the QX80 in, sitting at the airport. I never fully adjusted to the lack of on center feel, driving back to the airport on the highway we were eating and you take your eyes off the road for a second and its all over the place. I love the ride in a straight line, its super well isolated from the road and the outside world, but as soon as you hit any sort of corner with any kind of speed, what it is makes itself very well known with lots of leans and complaints from the wife about taking ramps too fast (which I never hear in our cars). Seats are also wide and flat and have very little lateral support. Engine is very refined and has a great big V8 feel, but requires heavy throttle and multiple downshifts to get any power for a passing manuever, etc. Like I said before, hard to go back to a NA V8 once you're used to turbos.
Short of the on center feel a great highway cruiser, but like I thought not something I would want to pilot around every day, no ability to move quickly in and around traffic and all like I do every day, etc. I'll drive an LX extensively but unless that is dramatically different I think if I do an SUV it would have to be a unibody style one that has a more carlike drivability.
#794
Lexus Champion
Maybe, his would be 4.0 hours according to book including water pump. Others are far worse, like way worse.
Chain in an RX350 is 19.1 hours. Parts are also $1350 for Toyota bits and I would require those and only those be used. So the chain is FAR worse than any belt and if you can't get much more than around 150k vs having to do one belt change...
Run the belt long like most do and in Toyota/Lexus they will last to over 150k and I've personally seen 10ish cars over that on factory belts. Other brands it's a coin toss, German brands it will die .0001 miles past the change interval lol! It's not a suggestion with them.
Chain in an RX350 is 19.1 hours. Parts are also $1350 for Toyota bits and I would require those and only those be used. So the chain is FAR worse than any belt and if you can't get much more than around 150k vs having to do one belt change...
Run the belt long like most do and in Toyota/Lexus they will last to over 150k and I've personally seen 10ish cars over that on factory belts. Other brands it's a coin toss, German brands it will die .0001 miles past the change interval lol! It's not a suggestion with them.
#795
Lexus Fanatic
Maybe, his would be 4.0 hours according to book including water pump. Others are far worse, like way worse.
Chain in an RX350 is 19.1 hours. Parts are also $1350 for Toyota bits and I would require those and only those be used. So the chain is FAR worse than any belt and if you can't get much more than around 150k vs having to do one belt change...
Run the belt long like most do and in Toyota/Lexus they will last to over 150k and I've personally seen 10ish cars over that on factory belts. Other brands it's a coin toss, German brands it will die .0001 miles past the change interval lol! It's not a suggestion with them.
Chain in an RX350 is 19.1 hours. Parts are also $1350 for Toyota bits and I would require those and only those be used. So the chain is FAR worse than any belt and if you can't get much more than around 150k vs having to do one belt change...
Run the belt long like most do and in Toyota/Lexus they will last to over 150k and I've personally seen 10ish cars over that on factory belts. Other brands it's a coin toss, German brands it will die .0001 miles past the change interval lol! It's not a suggestion with them.
You are literally the only person I have ever heard say that a Toyota timing chain has to be done on a 3.5 V6 in 150k miles, I mentioned that to my Lexus mechanic and he laughed, it’s just not true. The chain can and likely will last the life of the car