General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
#916
Lexus Test Driver
The venerable 2JZ can handle tons of power and used 2 bolt mains. I believe the B58 from BMW is also a 2 bolt main, and nobody can say BMW doesn't know inline 6 engines.
#917
Lexus Fanatic
#919
Lead Lap
Inline 6's work differently in terms of force on the crankshaft because they're perfectly balanced as well as the angle of the rods and pistons to the crank.
The venerable 2JZ can handle tons of power and used 2 bolt mains. I believe the B58 from BMW is also a 2 bolt main, and nobody can say BMW doesn't know inline 6 engines.
The venerable 2JZ can handle tons of power and used 2 bolt mains. I believe the B58 from BMW is also a 2 bolt main, and nobody can say BMW doesn't know inline 6 engines.
Yep! Also, this Hurricane motor has been out on the streets for a year now in the Wagoneer. Seems like the early issues have been limited to misfires caused by engine software faults.
#920
Lexus Champion
Also bolt count doesn't matter, I have a 840hp engine that is a two bolt main CAP style and as long as you machine it well (line hone, proper register fit, correct TQ during hone etc) and have correct materials to take it it's fine.
Another thing to keep in mind is rod ratio and trust angles, a V8 has a good amount of lateral forces vs an inline that is almost all vertical so less reinforcement is needed on top of the fact each piston gets a dedicated crank throw vs shared in a V8
Im certain this new Mopar engine will output more than any Lexus ever and do so relatively reliably as well. They always get the serious engines right ala 6.1/6.2/6.4 and the older 5.9/5.2 engines. The 4.0 AMC I-6 is also absurdly good, I've been driving mine in a blown headgasket for two years now due to overheating to the point of boiling the overflow bottle 26 times. It doesn't care so I've been to lazy to fix it
Last edited by Striker223; 01-30-24 at 06:54 PM.
#921
Lexus Fanatic
this is probably the best review I’ve ever seen of the land cruiser. I think Harry gets it exactly right.
and it’s astonishing to see the new 3.5 L turbo engine installed with a hydraulic steering system. Toyota still uses the hydraulic steering system and sub markets,
@SW17LS “ remember, all you need to do is change the oil”
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-30-24 at 07:56 PM.
#922
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
#924
But hey, rotary-engine MX-30 - that's what Mazda thinks people want.
#925
That's not a good excuse when they've already developed the CX-60 yet refuse to sell any form of it in the U.S. Most predictions of the CX-70 were a widebody CX-60. But nope, we got a CX-90 with its third row permanently folded down; as if 8 trims for the CX-90 wasn't already enough.
But hey, rotary-engine MX-30 - that's what Mazda thinks people want.
But hey, rotary-engine MX-30 - that's what Mazda thinks people want.
#926
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
That's not a good excuse when they've already developed the CX-60 yet refuse to sell any form of it in the U.S. Most predictions of the CX-70 were a widebody CX-60. But nope, we got a CX-90 with its third row permanently folded down; as if 8 trims for the CX-90 wasn't already enough.
But hey, rotary-engine MX-30 - that's what Mazda thinks people want.
But hey, rotary-engine MX-30 - that's what Mazda thinks people want.
mazda just sells so few cars. i really think tney need to be absorbed into another car maker.
#928
Lead Lap
It was a very unforgiving car with Eibach springs. It wasn’t very low, but it was very stiff in the rear. If you went into a corner hot, the AE was coming around. I did slide it around in a parking lot during a hailstorm and broke the speedometer cable in the process. I got out just in time to see the first two police units arrive. I was young. The car is much more manageable with the B&G springs.
#929
I'm not sure what Toyota and Mazda would collaborate with each other for, besides their currently existing shared factory. Mazda seems to be going out of their way to completely avoid Toyota in all their new projects, developing their own RWD platform, inline-6 engines, PHEV systems, and even transmissions in-house. Toyota has no need for a new RWD ICE architecture when they already have their own (TNGA-L) and generally the entire brand is now trying its best to avoid RWD altogether. At this point, Subaru and Toyota have closer ties than Mazda.
again i assume it's all budget-related. getting the cx-70 through u.s. regulatory hurdles was probably nothing given that, as you say, it's a 2 row cx-90. getting entirely new models though... expensive.
mazda just sells so few cars. i really think tney need to be absorbed into another car maker.
mazda just sells so few cars. i really think tney need to be absorbed into another car maker.
Much like the premature demise of Amati, there appears a serious disconnect between Mazda Japan and Mazda USA communication that resulted in this mess.
#930
Lexus Fanatic
Mazda is getting trolled in the press for this, MotorTrend I think it was went as far as to suggest we were being trolled