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Old 02-02-24, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
the LS, were it the optional nakamichi system i think that ups the wattage to like 285 or something

wait so the watts went down in the 430?
I've never heard Nakamiichi but it rocked I heard.

LS430 Mark Levinson is 240 watts, regular Pioneer I have is 178. Like I said, it's a great base system. Comes with a sub and all.
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Old 02-02-24, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Would it really matter?
I think a brand has standards. Lexus vehicles used to never have fake wood. I don't think fake wood belongs in a luxury vehicle.

Originally Posted by Stroock639
yea the harmon kardon is a bit meh... i'd imagine the bose systems were better

the pioneer system in the LS blows the harmon kardon away for sheer output capability while maintaining excellent clarity, the harmon kardon also has no subwoofer whereas the LS does

in the benz you can actually turn the volume all the way up, i'm not saying you can't in the LS but it will be painfully loud lmao... i think i might've ever done that like once and i got so startled i near instantly lowered it back to like 1/4 volume

what i've never figured out is how that system with "only" 215 watts can produce such magic
You should have heard the Nakamichi...
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You should have heard the Nakamichi...
think his name's jim but here it's @Kansas , anyway he once described the difference between the two: he said the pioneer had a more clear digital sound, whereas the nakamichi had more of a warm analogue sound... either way i don't doubt the magnificence of the nakamichi

these days though i'm happier to have the pioneer being that nakamichi no longer really exists lol
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Old 02-02-24, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Yep. Huge Lexus enthusiast and I'm very disappointed in this move. I do really like the new GX, but the interior isn't very luxurious.
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.



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Old 02-02-24, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I never said otherwise.
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Thats not a common viewpoint, the chatter I’ve watched and read is all very positive.
so what is your point in stating my viewpoint is not common?

to me, it's you saying "well you don't go along with the herd, so you must be wrong".
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Old 02-02-24, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.

Those are real wood veneers on a backing of, probably, aluminium.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
How much did they move it up?
I was originally quoted 16 months, now it'll be 7 by the time the car is estimated to get to the dealer. SWB Autobiography w/V8.
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Old 02-02-24, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.
Mercedes does not put fake wood in their cars.
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Old 02-02-24, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.

That's real.
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Old 02-02-24, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.

Its real, Mercedes doesn’t use fake wood.

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so what is your point in stating my viewpoint is not common?

to me, it's you saying "well you don't go along with the herd, so you must be wrong".
My point was to say most people seem to like it. If you felt I was saying you were wrong that’s in your own head.

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I was originally quoted 16 months, now it'll be 7 by the time the car is estimated to get to the dealer. SWB Autobiography w/V8.
Fingers crossed! He did tell me any SWB could be had much sooner than any LWB
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Old 02-02-24, 03:16 PM
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The LWB is so cool inside for the rear seats, full on executive pack is fantastic. Massage, recline, full power everything and a fridge etc....

Not sure if you would bother but it's really a nice place to hang out if you have people you like a lot who often come along lol!
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Saw a brand new Sequoia TRD in white, he was driving quickly and we ended up next to each other at a light.....the V6 doesn't sound terrible actually.
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Old 02-02-24, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Saw a brand new Sequoia TRD in white, he was driving quickly and we ended up next to each other at a light.....the V6 doesn't sound terrible actually.
They look really good. But the vehicle is very poorly executed. Bizzare that Toyota went back to solid axle when they had IRS

Toyota should have just imported the Land Cruiser 300 in multiple trims
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Old 02-02-24, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so on your silver arrow, is this wood, or plastic? doesn't look like wood.
Real wood (you really thought an R129 has fake wood?), it's actually special colored dark bc of Silver Arrow. It's high quality, HVAC and radio are embedded in a huge chunk of wood that looks very substantial.







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Old 02-02-24, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
They look really good. But the vehicle is very poorly executed. Bizzare that Toyota went back to solid axle when they had IRS

Toyota should have just imported the Land Cruiser 300 in multiple trims
Im certainly not trading mine for a new one, it's a regression in so many ways I have no interest.
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