Striker223

Exactly, if you know that truck well it's literally an hour to get it in the air. Makes all the rest of the work very very easy and fast, the only trucks it's not worth it IMO are LSs and Hemis since access is amazing.

FrankReynoldsCPA

HD diesel trucks have had cab lifts as a standard procedure for major engine work for the last 15-20 years. Emissions have made those trucks so complex that it's just the way it is.

And you're not going to make a diesel without a turbo. They need them

SW17LS

Right, its one hour of labor vs 10 hours trying to work without doing that.

On another note, love the PHEV lol. I filled up the van today for the first time since Jan 2nd when we got back from Albany, it was only down to just below 1/3rd of a tank too, could have gone another month probably with the weather getting warmer.



In the real cold weather it runs the engine more to heat the cabin, and range does the typical 20-25% decline so we're really only getting 26-27 miles of EV range vs 35.

AJT123

This is what I mean, or an example of how trucks are built tough.

The old Yukon I had didn’t have 200k, but it was 20 years old and had nothing done ever either, except I did change trans fluid because I tow. That thing refused to ever break down. 20 year old coolant and all fluids.
5.3 V8.

You just can’t do that anymore with all this complexity now.

SW17LS

But you get more performance, just do the maintenance

Striker223

You almost have to wonder if it's worth it though, if it tows it tows.....my Sequoia does excellently, would I even really care if it had 150 more HP? It's not like it will change how I tow stuff around since I don't accelerate quickly at all when I have 7k+ behind me

"Tools" like that I would rather just keep as mindlessly simple as possible.

Toys4RJill

I just love how the sky is falling with the Toyota cab off…but the Ford truck pics

The new tundra and the sequoia do not get 150hp increases with the new engine. It’s not worth it IMO. But there is no V8 for replacement

Striker223

That's because Toyota had EVERY chance to make it a hot-V engine and as someone who has worked on them all the Toyotas have the hardest cab separation process due to how haphazard they always package stuff. Unlike the domestics there are so many little things running all over the place it's a pain. The Fords all got screwed by the preexisting V6TT that the cars had so they were forced into low mount, the HD trucks are so much more capable than anything Toyota has ever made it's not worth comparing them lol!

No but my dads rover does, and it didn't change the towing experience much at all. That's obviously also a V8 but it is smaller in terms of size, the super more than makes it up though lol!

Toys4RJill

What pick up truck has a hot V engine?

BayeauxLex

The torque of the hybrid model is what impressed me and reviews say its pulls like a diesel.

sorry I did change the spark plugs at 99k. Never touched the brake or power steering fluid. With lack of maintenance, it just continued to run. I don’t think I would be so lucky with turbos.

I had an AFE pro dry air filter that I would rinse off and throw back in. I took it off before I sold the truck. Fram cabin filters from Walmart when needed. 0-20w Mobil 1 synthetic oil. Toyota OEM oil filters in packs of 5 from Amazon. I had engine cleaned and interior detailed before selling.

SW17LS

I think in a truck like that you have a point. In a vehicle more designed for pleasure I think it’s worth it.

Toys4RJill

It would be no comparison if there was a twin turbo V8 along with 4:10 or 4:30 gearing to replace the V8.

Impressive.

SW17LS

You would still have the reliability challenges of the turbos in a TTV8 though, hopefully they would design it smarter.

Toys4RJill

what reliability challenge do they need to design smarter?

Striker223

All of the V8 diesels, you can get to the turbos without cab off.