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Old 02-12-24, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LH1
That's an impressive amount of chairs back there!
Minivan for the win!
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Minivan for the win!
Absolutely. My brother and his wife just got a brand new Honda Odyssey. They have 3 kids and that thing is awesome!
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Old 02-12-24, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
those are boss... depending on the year that could also be the 4.7 V8 biturbo, even more awesomeness!
*screams in flashbacks of 4.7*

Uh yeah....awesomeness.....certainly that and not gun in mouth cataclysmic failures and difficulty of repair. Total compression loss, liner failure, turbo failure, chain failure, crank sprocket random failure of teeth, coolant leaks....

Just get the newer 4.0 or the BMW option if you want less issues, yes I'm recommending the 4.4 over it. At least that one can be worked on relatively easily. If you want the least issues and best access get an Audi 4.0
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My family members have all slowly gotten rid of their 4.0L V8tt Audis and Porsches. The constant hunger for oil seemed to have pissed everyone off.
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Old 02-12-24, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
My family members have all slowly gotten rid of their 4.0L V8tt Audis and Porsches. The constant hunger for oil seemed to have pissed everyone off.
For German cars, oil consumption is just part of experience is it not? One bottle of oil every 600 miles. I think that is stated in the manual



https://mercedesforum.com/forum/new-...ct-myth-52936/
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Old 02-12-24, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I'm at the Toyota dealer now, getting my Tundra serviced. For the first time in YEARS, they actually have a decent load of new cars on the lot. Not like pre-COVID, but still quite a few. I just spent some time out looking at their new Tundras. They seem to be controversial here on CL, but I would buy one in a minute if other financial goals wouldn't be risked.

They still don't have any Siennas, however. No Sequoias either, but a good selection of pretty much everything else.
Is it true the new Tundras are smaller on the inside? I haven’t been in a 3rd gen yet. I’ve talked to few people about theirs who came from previous gen and they all said they love their new one. My 2.5 gen has less storage space than my 2nd gen. Also the 2nd gen backseats moved forward and backwards and reclined. Miss that feature as well.


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But now I can tell people I have the same powertrain as the Supra.
Downpipe, flex fuel kit and tune it.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Took the seats out of the Pacifica for the first time today to haul some stuff in it for work, they come out pretty easy but they are heavy. For as little as we ever used the StowNGo seating this is not a bad tradeoff






This is also a huge plus for me buying an EV, Plugged in and charging for free, that door is the back door to my office.



Also, thought this was interesting. Even with a totally depleted EV battery the Pacifica still used all electric power for half my trip home.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying you need a truck but looks like a SUV could serve you well.
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Old 02-12-24, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
For German cars, oil consumption is just part of experience is it not? One bottle of oil every 600 miles. I think that is stated in the manual



https://mercedesforum.com/forum/new-...ct-myth-52936/
No, not really. And Lexus has the same blurb if you look at this thread:




https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...-s-manual.html
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Nice to see CBC News featuring an ES and a RX

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Old 02-13-24, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I wouldn’t go as far as saying you need a truck but looks like a SUV could serve you well.
So he can take advantage of a higher load floor and far less overall space?
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Look at this gem. This is the last E -Class that I cared about. It has the quad headlights up front which have aged EXTREMELY well.

love the w212 E class. Very elegant design. Back then you had to get the E 550 or the E 63 to get ventilated seats. You couldn’t get them on the E 350.
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
My family members have all slowly gotten rid of their 4.0L V8tt Audis and Porsches. The constant hunger for oil seemed to have pissed everyone off.
Shame that's too much for them to maintain, it even tells you how much to add and when.

Any turbo engine will use oil, you literally have a designed in oil leak or two on any engine with a turbo. Now if the management strat is prone to fuel dilution or you make a lot of short trips it will appear you aren't using oil....

Worst car I've had for oil usage was my LS460 when I first got it and that was due to rings, was correctible but there isn't an excuse on an engine like that. None of my other cars use oil other than the 4.0 but that's expected due to design

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Old 02-13-24, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
No, not really. And Lexus has the same blurb if you look at this thread:




https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...-s-manual.html
I have said that before. All engines use some oil. Most German cars are tuned for performance, so oil consumption with be more significant.
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I wouldn’t go as far as saying you need a truck but looks like a SUV could serve you well.
I extremely rarely need to do anything like that, I can just use the van when its neccessary.

All of those chairs would not have fit in a 3 row SUV either.

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Worst car I've had for oil usage was my LS460 when I first got it and that was due to rings, was correctible but there isn't an excuse on an engine like that. None of my other cars use oil other than the 4.0 but that's expected due to design
Yes, its a big problem with that engine as they age.

My M176 has almost 50k miles on it and doesn't use any oil
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I have said that before. All engines use some oil. Most German cars are tuned for performance, so oil consumption with be more significant.
That's not a rule though. None of the M177 AMG V8s I've owned have needed to be topped off between oil changes.

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Yes, its a big problem with that engine as they age.
That's shocking to me. The LS460 really had more problems than the norm for Lexus.
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Old 02-13-24, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
That's not a rule though. None of the M177 AMG V8s I've owned have needed to be topped off between oil changes.
Then ya didn’t drive them hard enough

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My M176 has almost 50k miles on it and doesn't use any oil
Every engine consumes oil. Most would never know as it uses so little it would be extremely difficult to detect. Drive your Mercedes very very hard at the peak of its limits, you’ll see more oil use. Or any car for that matter …

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