Best YouTube car reviewer
02-19-24, 04:04 PM
#46
as much as i love clarkson, i love him with most with may and hammond reviewing cars. they are legends!
to be back on topic, today i love throttle house and TFL. i'm slowly starting to watch marques brownlee's new auto channel (auto focus). have you guys seen forrestautoreviews? he's the best shorts reviewer in my opinion.
to be back on topic, today i love throttle house and TFL. i'm slowly starting to watch marques brownlee's new auto channel (auto focus). have you guys seen forrestautoreviews? he's the best shorts reviewer in my opinion.
02-20-24, 12:15 AM
#48
Lexus Test Driver
early years, pre global celebrity clarkson also wasn't nearly as brazen and unconventional, and in addition to the tv shows he's always written a serious paper column with information one could actually find useful and conclusive
02-20-24, 12:41 PM
#49
Agree. I find Doug a tad annoying, so I only watch him sometimes. But I absolutely acknowledge that his style resonates with a huge number of people. Largely "normies" who maybe I'd describe more as auto-interested than car enthusiasts--that's not a dig, just a comparison of the level of interest/dedication/obsession. And clearly there are a LOT more of them than there are of us. I've definitely had more people out in the general world (as opposed to in car enthusiast circles) tell me that Doug is their favorite reviewer than all other reviewers combined.
He's kind of like Gordon Ramsay in a way. Undeniably an expert in his genre, but most people who watch him are more interested in his personality and what that brings to the show than in the intricate details that are holed up in his brain. The smaller group of people who are interested in learning specific cooking techniques in great detail are looking elsewhere, because that's not what most of his shows are about.
He's kind of like Gordon Ramsay in a way. Undeniably an expert in his genre, but most people who watch him are more interested in his personality and what that brings to the show than in the intricate details that are holed up in his brain. The smaller group of people who are interested in learning specific cooking techniques in great detail are looking elsewhere, because that's not what most of his shows are about.
I think the main thing here is, everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what essentially is entertainment. And sometimes these opinions can shift, case in point, I once really enjoyed Savagegeese, but eventually grew bored of their reviews and humor.
02-20-24, 01:10 PM
#50
Lexus Test Driver
My only thing with Doug is that I just don't care for his voice. I think in terms of his content, however, he's fine.
I haven't seen much of Savagegeese's reviews, other than the ones he did for the G30 and G60 BMW's. He didn't seem super interested but I need to watch more to form an opinion.
I haven't seen much of Savagegeese's reviews, other than the ones he did for the G30 and G60 BMW's. He didn't seem super interested but I need to watch more to form an opinion.
02-20-24, 01:42 PM
#51
Super Moderator
I feel like Mark has been in a little bit of a funk lately, since the SUPER in-depth content he loves to do (and I and other fans love to watch) is a monumental amount of work, and doesn't pay back the cost/time. Go check out things like his 5-part series on the Miata or his "love letter" to the LFA to get an idea of what I'm talking about. You won't find stuff like that pretty much anywhere else, and I think it hurts him a bit that it isn't economically viable.
02-20-24, 02:01 PM
#52
I feel like Mark has been in a little bit of a funk lately, since the SUPER in-depth content he loves to do (and I and other fans love to watch) is a monumental amount of work, and doesn't pay back the cost/time. Go check out things like his 5-part series on the Miata or his "love letter" to the LFA to get an idea of what I'm talking about. You won't find stuff like that pretty much anywhere else, and I think it hurts him a bit that it isn't economically viable.
Again, this is only my opinion, everyone else is entitle to theirs.
02-20-24, 02:03 PM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
Agreed, he's very cynical and bitter.
02-20-24, 02:21 PM
#54
Agreed that Mark seems to be experiencing something of a burnout in the past few years with the Savagegeese videos, which is why he's been delegating more of the presentation to Jack in recent years. I get the impression that he's not remotely interested in most of the cars he reviews because he's an old-school enthusiast, but reviewing crossovers is what pays the bills, and that kills him inside.
He also seems to avoid collaborations, which probably is a sign that he's not as well-connected or perhaps even disliked by other motoring journalists, but that's just my speculation.
He also seems to avoid collaborations, which probably is a sign that he's not as well-connected or perhaps even disliked by other motoring journalists, but that's just my speculation.
Last edited by Motorola; 02-20-24 at 02:25 PM.
02-20-24, 02:33 PM
#55
Lexus Champion
I don't spend a lot of time watching reviews on YouTube, so my view is limited.
I like Straight Pipes, Topher, TFL, Meyn, Redline, and a few others. I don't have an issue with Demuro. It's just entertainment.
I like Straight Pipes, Topher, TFL, Meyn, Redline, and a few others. I don't have an issue with Demuro. It's just entertainment.
02-20-24, 03:30 PM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
Yes....Doug's voice is not as grating as Scotty Kilmer's, but IMO, that typical drawn-out "TTTTHHHHIIIISSSS" is the new XXXXX vehicle" introduction is a little overdone.
02-20-24, 03:45 PM
#57
Lexus Test Driver
I'd probably end it before I got out of the county.
03-11-24, 08:51 AM
#59
Advanced
For car reviews, I prefer Redline , Alex on Autos and Savagegeese . I know this is not quite possible but is a major consideration is the topic of reliability of a vehicle.
For example... I have a close friend who just bought a GV70 Genesis. He loves it, I saw it and was very impressed. I also was in the market for a new SUV and the more I dug the more I found significant concerns with what I consider Hyundai reliability issues.(I ended up buying a Lexus)
Neither of the reviewers listed above comment on reliability for a particular model (although Savagegeese does generally praise Toyota reliability)
Reliability should be reviewed or mentioned, but I get it, its not a concrete topic for new models unless you have a history for that particular iteration with some years behind it.
Also, I just googled MMarshal and could not find any youtubes.... anyone got a link?
For example... I have a close friend who just bought a GV70 Genesis. He loves it, I saw it and was very impressed. I also was in the market for a new SUV and the more I dug the more I found significant concerns with what I consider Hyundai reliability issues.(I ended up buying a Lexus)
Neither of the reviewers listed above comment on reliability for a particular model (although Savagegeese does generally praise Toyota reliability)
Reliability should be reviewed or mentioned, but I get it, its not a concrete topic for new models unless you have a history for that particular iteration with some years behind it.
Also, I just googled MMarshal and could not find any youtubes.... anyone got a link?
03-11-24, 11:03 AM
#60
Lexus Fanatic
For car reviews, I prefer Redline , Alex on Autos and Savagegeese . I know this is not quite possible but is a major consideration is the topic of reliability of a vehicle.
For example... I have a close friend who just bought a GV70 Genesis. He loves it, I saw it and was very impressed. I also was in the market for a new SUV and the more I dug the more I found significant concerns with what I consider Hyundai reliability issues.(I ended up buying a Lexus)
Neither of the reviewers listed above comment on reliability for a particular model (although Savagegeese does generally praise Toyota reliability)
Reliability should be reviewed or mentioned, but I get it, its not a concrete topic for new models unless you have a history for that particular iteration with some years behind it.
Also, I just googled MMarshal and could not find any youtubes.... anyone got a link?
For example... I have a close friend who just bought a GV70 Genesis. He loves it, I saw it and was very impressed. I also was in the market for a new SUV and the more I dug the more I found significant concerns with what I consider Hyundai reliability issues.(I ended up buying a Lexus)
Neither of the reviewers listed above comment on reliability for a particular model (although Savagegeese does generally praise Toyota reliability)
Reliability should be reviewed or mentioned, but I get it, its not a concrete topic for new models unless you have a history for that particular iteration with some years behind it.
Also, I just googled MMarshal and could not find any youtubes.... anyone got a link?
I personally have learned to basically ignore reliability as a factor. All modern cars today are basically reliable, if you're going to own a car 10+ years its more of a factor...but as a car enthusiast there is just so much more to like about a car than just reliability. For instance, Lexus has nothing that competes with the GV70...