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Old 02-29-24 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
And I still stand by what I said in the thread that detailed that, if you are too idiotic to look before you open a door then you shouldn't be driving.
Ideally people would never make mistakes but we do. What is wrong with using technology to try and limit injury or death caused by human error? There are thousands of systems in our daily lives that do just that, so why is a smart door latch so awful?

And they don't save cost they increase cost, you have the manual release and electronic button.
Old 02-29-24 | 12:56 PM
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A smart door latch is awful for this reason. Had this person been in some sort of medical distress or if the vehicle were on fire for example they could have died because they and the rescue personnel were unaware how the door latch worked. A regular door handle would have solved these issues.
Old 02-29-24 | 01:02 PM
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EMS are trained to know exactly how to open doors. Not long ago I drove past a fire station they had a Tesla and some type of Ford SUV in their staging area.
Old 02-29-24 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
EMS are trained to know exactly how to open doors. Not long ago I drove past a fire station they had a Tesla and some type of Ford SUV in their staging area.
Clearly these EMS workers weren't. Did you watch the video? The EMS workers did that to the window because they couldn't figure out how to open them either.

I just see no benefit to these types of door latches, only downside.
Old 02-29-24 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Remember the FIREFIGHTERS couldn't figure it out either.
ehh i know the firefighter type... they'll look for any reason to smash a window or break out the other firefighter tools (jaws of life, etc...) that they all can't wait to use whenever possible lol

guarantee they spent like max 4 seconds trying to find a manual release
Old 02-29-24 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
ehh i know the firefighter type... they'll look for any reason to smash a window or break out the other firefighter tools (jaws of life, etc...) that they all can't wait to use whenever possible lol

guarantee they spent like max 4 seconds trying to find a manual release
They had a hysterical woman locked in a car, they don't wait.
Old 02-29-24 | 02:34 PM
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If you watched the part (at 1:17) where the customer said they could not get the trunk-light to work after pushing all the buttons, it's hard to tell if what the technician turned on was actually the dome light above the dash or the cargo light in the rear.

On the spark-plug installation (1:36), plugs usually come from the factory already gapped, but, for whatever reason, those were way off. And, of course, different engines, per specs, may require minor adjustments.

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Old 02-29-24 | 02:49 PM
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Apparently this was not the same person whose car would not move at night. Turns out they were putting the transmission in D to drive during the day, and N to drive at night.
Old 02-29-24 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
They had a hysterical woman locked in a car, they don't wait.
She's not suffocating or drowning.....
Old 02-29-24 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wasjr
Apparently this was not the same person whose car would not move at night. Turns out they were putting the transmission in D to drive during the day, and N to drive at night.
.........That one takes the cake.
Old 02-29-24 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
.........That one takes the cake.
...except that it's from an old joke, and not a real story....
Old 02-29-24 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
She's not suffocating or drowning.....
She's sill hysterical. Point is, a simple door handle is smarter, simpler and safer.
Old 02-29-24 | 05:19 PM
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I actually kind of dig them. Just had a loaner RX with these handles. They were super easy to get used to, had a premium feel, and (at least from the inside), I thought the "backup/emergency" function appeared pretty obvious. One off cases happen, but if this becomes a trend, then yes, there will be some educating or revising that needs to take place.
Old 02-29-24 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
She's sill hysterical. Point is, a simple door handle is smarter, simpler and safer.

Yeah, that was one of the very few things that I did not like about the latest version of the Lincoln Continental...the electronic push-button inside door handles. There was supposedly an emergency back-up, but it was difficult to locate and use.
Old 02-29-24 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
She's not suffocating or drowning.....
Hysterical, woman.

These words are key. Haha



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