Your Car is Spying on You
04-18-24, 10:04 AM
#106
Lexus Fanatic
That’s great for you. I don’t want to drive a 12 year old car and I want a fully featured phone. People can watch me all they want 
04-18-24, 12:00 PM
#108
But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
04-18-24, 02:09 PM
#109
Lexus Fanatic
In that case, take those curtains off your windows, the locks off your doors, and post up your address - I want to come by and watch you.
But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
You do have choice, the choice is to stop using this technology.
04-18-24, 02:22 PM
#110
Lexus Fanatic
Emilio Mordini, philosopher and psychoanalyst, argued that the "nothing to hide" argument is inherently paradoxical. People do not need to have "something to hide" in order to hide "something". What is hidden is not necessarily relevant, claims Mordini. Instead, he argues an intimate area which can be both hidden and access-restricted is necessary since, psychologically speaking, we become individuals through the discovery that we could hide something to others.
Bruce Schneier, a computer security expert and cryptographer, expressed opposition, citing a statement widely attributed to Cardinal Richelieu,[11] "Give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I'll find enough to hang him,"
Bruce Schneier, a computer security expert and cryptographer, expressed opposition, citing a statement widely attributed to Cardinal Richelieu,[11] "Give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I'll find enough to hang him,"
04-18-24, 02:26 PM
#111
Lexus Fanatic
You are in no position to tell me (or anyone else on this forum) that they are not being honest about their personal lives.
Have a nice evening.
04-18-24, 02:41 PM
#112
Lexus Fanatic
The point is, how far do you want to take it? I am not willing to give up using modern technologies like connected cars and smartphones, so if that means people will figure out demographically how often I drive to the CVS, then so be it.
04-18-24, 02:46 PM
#113
Lexus Fanatic
You just admitted it is valuable and necessary to "hide" things from others.
04-18-24, 03:00 PM
#114
Lexus Test Driver
I use Google services a lot, and I'm generally fine with having anonymous data collected to use for marketing purposes, but i also think people should be able to decide what data is collected. Part of that is deciding what services to use.
I don't like people who think we have an obligation to be transparent about our lives with everybody. I'm not a criminal or crook just because I'm not willing to open up my entire life to the government or any other interested party.
I don't like people who think we have an obligation to be transparent about our lives with everybody. I'm not a criminal or crook just because I'm not willing to open up my entire life to the government or any other interested party.
04-18-24, 03:07 PM
#115
Lexus Fanatic
I don’t feel like we should have to do that at all, I just don’t really care to be quite honest.
04-18-24, 03:23 PM
#116
Lexus Fanatic
I admitted nothing of the kind. I can't speak for others, but my point is that I have nothing to hide in my personal life. If a GPS tracker in my vehicle records every place I drive, I couldn't care less. What will they find?....mostly church, grocery stores, shopping malls, medical appointments, indoor swimming pools at rec centers, and auto dealerships (to look at and evaluate vehicles and sometimes help others shop).
I just don’t really care to be quite honest.
Last edited by mmarshall; 04-18-24 at 03:28 PM.
04-18-24, 03:55 PM
#117
Lexus Fanatic
I admitted nothing of the kind. I can't speak for others, but my point is that I have nothing to hide in my personal life. If a GPS tracker in my vehicle records every place I drive, I couldn't care less. What will they find?....mostly church, grocery stores, shopping malls, medical appointments, indoor swimming pools at rec centers, and auto dealerships (to look at and evaluate vehicles and sometimes help others shop).
There...Steve hit the nail on the head.
There...Steve hit the nail on the head.
04-18-24, 04:05 PM
#118
Lexus Fanatic
You’re taking the concept to an extreme
04-18-24, 04:23 PM
#119
Lexus Fanatic
You're completely discounting it because you go out of your way to disagree with everything I say. That is extremism.
People that say who cares about privacy because they have nothing to hide in fact hide many things because it is perfectly normal to do so. Personal "my personal life" means belonging to or individual. Giving up info to a company means it doesn't belong to you anymore.
People that say who cares about privacy because they have nothing to hide in fact hide many things because it is perfectly normal to do so. Personal "my personal life" means belonging to or individual. Giving up info to a company means it doesn't belong to you anymore.
Last edited by LeX2K; 04-18-24 at 04:26 PM.
04-18-24, 04:25 PM
#120
Lexus Test Driver
Steve's right, you've crossed over to outright condescending and insulting Mmarshall.