Select Lexus Models Reportedly Vulnerable to Theft via Big Flaw
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Select Lexus Models Reportedly Vulnerable to Theft via Big Flaw
Select Lexus Models Reportedly Vulnerable to Theft via Big Flaw
By Brett Foote
As is the case with a lot of newer automobiles.
By Brett Foote
As is the case with a lot of newer automobiles.
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Lexus Fanatic
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wow, just read this article... that's BAD. (CL: can you please fix slideshows like this, they're still broken - using the next/prev doesn't always work, but the arrows on the pics do).
wonder if they'll do a recall for this.
wonder if they'll do a recall for this.
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Lexus Test Driver
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drives cars
This is pretty scary. I hope something can be done to better secure the vehicles.
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Lexus Test Driver
I checked out the slide show and there are a couple of things to point out, IMO.
1: CAN bus exploits are not the car mfgs fault any more than if someone hacks your computer and then blames Windows.
2: it only takes one person to make an exploit of the system and then sell it or make a download available to everyone. This is the danger of driving a computer on wheels.
That's the simple version. Lol
1: CAN bus exploits are not the car mfgs fault any more than if someone hacks your computer and then blames Windows.
2: it only takes one person to make an exploit of the system and then sell it or make a download available to everyone. This is the danger of driving a computer on wheels.
That's the simple version. Lol
Last edited by Margate330; 04-03-24 at 12:30 PM.
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Lexus Fanatic
I'm sure some other auto makers are the same or similar, in the case of Tesla the stolen car can easily be tracked. Car is flagged you won't be able to supercharge. You'll never get OTA updates. Only way you could drive the car at all without being flagged is completely disable connectivity. Leaves you with chopping the car up and selling for parts.
This opens up a privacy and ethical dilemma auto maker knows exactly where you are at all times. Great for theft prevention, not so great for privacy. Imagine law enforcement wanting travel logs. Then what? But I suppose it is no different than your smartphone.
This opens up a privacy and ethical dilemma auto maker knows exactly where you are at all times. Great for theft prevention, not so great for privacy. Imagine law enforcement wanting travel logs. Then what? But I suppose it is no different than your smartphone.
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Lexus Champion
Check the date of the Article...April 1st. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but lots of April fools day articles. I saw one where someone was able to open and drive his Tesla using a Pokemon card. The article looked 100 percent legit until I saw the tags. Just a thought before everyone panics.......
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#8
Lexus Test Driver
Which will of course make everything proprietary and must go to the dealer for everything.
Even code scanners will no longer work.
There are other ways to help get around this but I see a big opening for them to try and "lock it down".
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Super Moderator
Check the date of the Article...April 1st. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but lots of April fools day articles. I saw one where someone was able to open and drive his Tesla using a Pokemon card. The article looked 100 percent legit until I saw the tags. Just a thought before everyone panics.......
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/04/18/.../?guccounter=1
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Lexus Thefts - We Are Ignored in North America
This CAN bus vulnerability has been widely known for a LONG time. Once the thief has their easily obtained $5000 device, they have the keys to any vulnerable vehicle that they want. It’s like Toyota/Lexus sells us a vehicle with a toggle switch on the dashboard so that anyone who would rather steal than buy, simply plugs in to the CAN bus connector and starts your vehicle and just takes it away. NICE…
Toyota/Lexus are ignoring us here in North America, I’ve inquired; they simply say they meet all applicable standards… they simply don’t care that our vehicles can disappear at any time or they would do something. Toyota/Lexus are already addressing this vulnerability in Europe by retrofitting a fix, but not here. Check out these news releases from Toyota South Africa and Toyota Great Britain.
https://www.toyota.co.za/discover/ne...vehicle-safety
https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-sta...vehicle-theft/
I have tried to get answers from Lexus Canada as well as my Local Lexus Dealer, but a similar fix is not offered, despite the fact that the technology and fix does in fact exist… FRUSTRATING!!!
Toyota/Lexus are ignoring us here in North America, I’ve inquired; they simply say they meet all applicable standards… they simply don’t care that our vehicles can disappear at any time or they would do something. Toyota/Lexus are already addressing this vulnerability in Europe by retrofitting a fix, but not here. Check out these news releases from Toyota South Africa and Toyota Great Britain.
https://www.toyota.co.za/discover/ne...vehicle-safety
https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-sta...vehicle-theft/
I have tried to get answers from Lexus Canada as well as my Local Lexus Dealer, but a similar fix is not offered, despite the fact that the technology and fix does in fact exist… FRUSTRATING!!!
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It’s good business for Lexus. More stolen cars = more sales of new cars or parts.
most of the stolen RX goes to Africa anyway. You can buy your car back there 😀
most of the stolen RX goes to Africa anyway. You can buy your car back there 😀
Last edited by 703; 04-05-24 at 11:08 AM.
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Lexus Fanatic
I'll be waiting for the outrage and shock that Hyundai and Kia received for the same thing.
Waiting....and waiting....and waiting lol
Waiting....and waiting....and waiting lol
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