2025 Toyota Camry XSE First Drive: Can Practical & Economical Actually Be Fun?
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Next, we realized on the forum that touring need sporting-luxury tires like the Pirelli Cinturato P7's gave a much softer ride and more quietness, albeit at the expense of handling.
Although the 4.5GS midlife refresh is softer, it is only medium soft, and not genuinely soft like our 3.5GS.
Hence, right now, I'm actually thinking of further downsizing via Minus 2 to 17" with Pirelli Cinturato P7 Series II at 225/55 R17 on 17" x 7.5" rims with the regular +45 mm offset.
Im going to replace the Continentals with Vredestein Quatrac pros before next year. They seem to get good reviews. And will hopefully give me a quieter smoother ride.
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Meanwhile the Vredestein Quatrac Pros are better in the wet than the Pirelli Cinturatos.
#48
Intermediate
Hey, folks, I didn't get to attend the press drive event last week, but Toyota was kind enough to get one of the prototypes from that event into my hands this week. So here are my first drive impressions on the ninth generation 2025 Camry XSE -- https://www.clublexus.com/articles/2...y-first-drive/
I have it for a few more days, not sure if I'm going to make a video tour or not, but let me know if you have any questions about the updated 5th Gen AWD Hybrid system and/or the XSE grade, and I'll try to answer for you.
Cheers!
I have it for a few more days, not sure if I'm going to make a video tour or not, but let me know if you have any questions about the updated 5th Gen AWD Hybrid system and/or the XSE grade, and I'll try to answer for you.
Cheers!
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Lexus Champion
#50
Intermediate
the shiny piano black accents is what elevates the elegance of the interior. I love it. Glad toyota realizes this too.
#51
Super Moderator
on its way to eventually looking like this:
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#56
Lexus Fanatic
And its an EV. Lots of people don't want an EV...
There is a huge difference between piano black lacquer wood as in that Rolls Royce, and piano black plastic as in the Camry. Piano black plastic feels cheap, and it scratches to all hell, shows every fingerprint and spec of dust. They use it because it looks high end at first glance, when in reality its the cheap way out. It scratches way too easily to be used in often touched and cleaned surfaces in a car.
The piano black console in my Pacifica for instance is already scratched all to hell after 8,000 miles, and in the Pacifica it replaced which had a nice matte black plastic in that same area that area looked brand new with 30,000 miles on it.
The piano black console in my Pacifica for instance is already scratched all to hell after 8,000 miles, and in the Pacifica it replaced which had a nice matte black plastic in that same area that area looked brand new with 30,000 miles on it.
#57
Intermediate
And its an EV. Lots of people don't want an EV...
There is a huge difference between piano black lacquer wood as in that Rolls Royce, and piano black plastic as in the Camry. Piano black plastic feels cheap, and it scratches to all hell, shows every fingerprint and spec of dust. They use it because it looks high end at first glance, when in reality its the cheap way out. It scratches way too easily to be used in often touched and cleaned surfaces in a car.
The piano black console in my Pacifica for instance is already scratched all to hell after 8,000 miles, and in the Pacifica it replaced which had a nice matte black plastic in that same area that area looked brand new with 30,000 miles on it.
There is a huge difference between piano black lacquer wood as in that Rolls Royce, and piano black plastic as in the Camry. Piano black plastic feels cheap, and it scratches to all hell, shows every fingerprint and spec of dust. They use it because it looks high end at first glance, when in reality its the cheap way out. It scratches way too easily to be used in often touched and cleaned surfaces in a car.
The piano black console in my Pacifica for instance is already scratched all to hell after 8,000 miles, and in the Pacifica it replaced which had a nice matte black plastic in that same area that area looked brand new with 30,000 miles on it.
#58
Lexus Fanatic
Trim can only be so costly on a lower end car.
#59
Intermediate
It really can't be fixed. The reality is that plastic is very soft, and it scratches very easily. High gloss surfaces are prone to showing scratches, especially black...plastic can only be made so durable...urethane coatings on wood can be made to resist scratches better.
Trim can only be so costly on a lower end car.
Trim can only be so costly on a lower end car.
#60
Lexus Fanatic
You can have your own piano black plastic protected with paint protection film which a lot of people do, but it’s not cheap.