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Old 04-30-24, 11:19 AM
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362 deaths out of 40k will be prevented? That's it?
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Originally Posted by tex2670
I agree 100% with this. It's insane.
Agreed. That would save FAR more lives. I think about 10-15% of cars driving around at night in this area have no lights whatsoever--not even DRLs.

Canada, who is always ahead of us in matters such as this, has mandated that vehicles manufactured starting 2.5 years ago have to have exterior lights (headlights, taillights, side markers) that come on automatically at dark, and interior lights (including the instrument cluster!) that CANNOT be illuminated at night unless the outside lights are on.
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I still can't understand people who drive without headlights when needed.

How tf can you not notice the dark patch in front of your car?
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362 deaths out of 40k will be prevented? That's it?
There's simple technology that could prevent 362 people from dying -- you are against this?
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Originally Posted by LH1
I still can't understand people who drive without headlights when needed.

How tf can you not notice the dark patch in front of your car?
I ask myself this question .... every .... single .... day......
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There's simple technology that could prevent 362 people from dying -- you are against this?
Having driven a camry with this technology, it'll do more harm that good.

Kind of like red light camera enforcement.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
There's simple technology that could prevent 362 people from dying -- you are against this?
Money would be better spent saving more people elsewhere
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Originally Posted by tex2670
It's emergency braking, not semi-autonomous driving. Who on earth decides they don't need to pay attention because of emergency braking?
You are not treating the problem which is driver skill rather coming up with costly solutions that nobody even knows what effect it will have on accident prevention.

All US has to do is copy Germany on licensing requirements and how to operate /maintain roads/highways like the Autobahn.

Our policies are motivated by Lobbyists rather than common sense!
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
You are not treating the problem which is driver skill rather coming up with costly solutions that nobody even knows what effect it will have on accident prevention.

All US has to do is copy Germany on licensing requirements and how to operate /maintain roads/highways like the Autobahn.

Our policies are motivated by Lobbyists rather than common sense!
It's way too late for that. Improving the skill of 230 million licensed drivers would take a generation to solve. So you implement other safety measures while rolling out education programs that take decades to have an impact.
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Originally Posted by LexusForever
362 deaths out of 40k will be prevented? That's it?
What is the threshold to where it's worth saving lives give a percentage.
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Money would be better spent saving more people elsewhere
So the triage approach. Where should the money be spent instead?

My take is many cars already have the hardware for emergency braking it's up to the software to make it work. Get it done auto makers.
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What is the threshold to where it's worth saving lives give a percentage.

So the triage approach. Where should the money be spent instead?

My take is many cars already have the hardware for emergency braking it's up to the software to make it work. Get it done auto makers.
Permanent removal of license for DUI/DWI and use the money to enforce. Would shave over 10k off that number with ease
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Originally Posted by tex2670
It's way too late for that. Improving the skill of 230 million licensed drivers would take a generation to solve. So you implement other safety measures while rolling out education programs that take decades to have an impact.
LOL - well as we can see additional safety features are not helping bring fatalities down.

The hard road needs to be taken in order to achieve results.
Education and improving skills is the only way and its proven to work.

You certainly will not need generations to see results.

Most ppl don’t have even the basics how to properly adjust mirrors and seating position. Blind Spot warning is a useless system if you know how to use those 2 items.

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Originally Posted by Striker223
Permanent removal of license for DUI/DWI and use the money to enforce. Would shave over 10k off that number with ease
But how is this $$ related to costs to add safety gear to cars? Car manufacturers are now going to pay for law enforcement?
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Permanent removal of license for DUI/DWI and use the money to enforce. Would shave over 10k off that number with ease
How will removing licenses generate revenue?
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Education and improving skills is the only way and its proven to work.
Agreed. Severe penalties don't work people drink and drive anyway. Why? Because driving is convenient plus every bar has a parking lot.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
LOL - well as we can see additional safety features are not helping bring fatalities down.

The hard road needs to be taken in order to achieve results.
Education and improving skills is the only way and its proven to work.

You certainly will not need generations to see results.

Most ppl don’t have even the basics how to properly adjust mirrors and seating position. Blind Spot warning is a useless system if you know how to use those 2 items.
Sure - it's easy to "teach" a driver to properly adjust mirrors.

But .. how is that accomplished? First, you need to upgrade driver licensing standards in 50 states. How long do you think that will take? Next, you have to implement some sort of re-qualification test for drivers already licensed ... in 50 states. I'm sure no one will object to having to take a new test when renewing their license, and no lobbyists (AARP????) will fight this tooth and nail. Again ... decades.
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