Rolls Royce reliable?
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Then get it. IMO if you are worried about this its just not a car for you. These aren't cars that are designed to be driven daily etc, you're going to be beholden to the dealership and I would imagine service there is not quick and easy, it will be away for weeks for any sort of repair. Even if I had limitless money, its never a car I would buy unless it was a part of a group of cars that I owed and its not something I would ever daily drive.
I don't believe Bentleys have a reputation for being unreliable or a headache, but a Phantom is more exotic than a Bentley and you're going to be even more limited as to where you can service it and get support etc. Given your complaints about the concept that the Lexus LS460 requires some repairs that are a little complex this is way over your head IMO.
A car like a Phantom is like owning a boat, or a plane...its not transportation lol
I don't believe Bentleys have a reputation for being unreliable or a headache, but a Phantom is more exotic than a Bentley and you're going to be even more limited as to where you can service it and get support etc. Given your complaints about the concept that the Lexus LS460 requires some repairs that are a little complex this is way over your head IMO.
A car like a Phantom is like owning a boat, or a plane...its not transportation lol
Last edited by Tdes395; 06-11-24 at 01:00 PM.
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It’s like a Ferrari or any other exotic car. If reliability and maintenance cost and timing are a concern it’s not for you.
Put it this way, if what I just went through with the 8 days 24 hours labor and $3,000 in parts to replace the valve cover gaskets on my S Class sounds off putting…this ain’t for you lol
Put it this way, if what I just went through with the 8 days 24 hours labor and $3,000 in parts to replace the valve cover gaskets on my S Class sounds off putting…this ain’t for you lol
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i don’t buy unreliable cars, cost not withstanding. It’s the principle I stand by. People who buy unreliable cars are fools with money in my book. I’ll lease them. I’ll rent them. But I won’t but them. This rolls is going to be a company car. I’ve decided to order it brand new bespoke to my specifications. There’s a 6 month wait which I’m ok with.
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i don’t buy unreliable cars, cost not withstanding. It’s the principle I stand by. People who buy unreliable cars are fools with money in my book. I’ll lease them. I’ll rent them. But I won’t but them. This rolls is going to be a company car. I’ve decided to order it brand new bespoke to my specifications. There’s a 6 month wait which I’m ok with.
If you buy it new the warranty will cover costs but time will still be a factor. But Steve is correct, if you have to ask it's not for you
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i don’t buy unreliable cars, cost not withstanding. It’s the principle I stand by. People who buy unreliable cars are fools with money in my book. I’ll lease them. I’ll rent them. But I won’t but them. This rolls is going to be a company car. I’ve decided to order it brand new bespoke to my specifications. There’s a 6 month wait which I’m ok with.
50k miles. The issue was no big deal, it’s a leaking valve cover gasket, it’s just the complexity of the engine makes it so that is an incredibly difficult and expensive job. This car has been problem free, and that should have been a minor issue but on a car like this it’s just not.
That's nothing compared to how even a straightforward issue with a Phantom would be.
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“Unreliable” is relative. Nothing that is complex or sophisticated is going to be problem free or easy to repair. If you want something that has the highest likelihood of being dead reliable and entirely straightforward to repair what you want is a Lexus ES350. Anything more than that and it’s just not going to be that.
50k miles. The issue was no big deal, it’s a leaking valve cover gasket, it’s just the complexity of the engine makes it so that is an incredibly difficult and expensive job. This car has been problem free, and that should have been a minor issue but on a car like this it’s just not.
That's nothing compared to how even a straightforward issue with a Phantom would be.
50k miles. The issue was no big deal, it’s a leaking valve cover gasket, it’s just the complexity of the engine makes it so that is an incredibly difficult and expensive job. This car has been problem free, and that should have been a minor issue but on a car like this it’s just not.
That's nothing compared to how even a straightforward issue with a Phantom would be.
#39
Stuff happens to cars, you are somebody who has shown you are very unforgiving of cars needing repair especially complex repairs. I can't imagine you tolerating something that is exotic and has unique needs. A special car requires that you love it enough to deal with these types of things.
My valve cover leak and the LS460 valley plate leak are literally nothing compared to what you can and will encounter owning a car like that. Thats the point of my story, a valve cover gasket leak is an easy repair. It would take a tech two hours on a normal car...on my car it takes 24 hours and needs to be done by a specialist.
Last edited by SW17LS; 06-11-24 at 03:56 PM.
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Then you should not buy a Rolls Royce, lol
Stuff happens to cars, you are somebody who has shown you are very unforgiving of cars needing repair especially complex repairs. I can't imagine you tolerating something that is exotic and has unique needs. A special car requires that you love it enough to deal with these types of things.
My valve cover leak and the LS460 valley plate leak are literally nothing compared to what you can and will encounter owning a car like that. Thats the point of my story, a valve cover gasket leak is an easy repair. It would take a tech two hours on a normal car...on my car it takes 24 hours and needs to be done by a specialist.
Stuff happens to cars, you are somebody who has shown you are very unforgiving of cars needing repair especially complex repairs. I can't imagine you tolerating something that is exotic and has unique needs. A special car requires that you love it enough to deal with these types of things.
My valve cover leak and the LS460 valley plate leak are literally nothing compared to what you can and will encounter owning a car like that. Thats the point of my story, a valve cover gasket leak is an easy repair. It would take a tech two hours on a normal car...on my car it takes 24 hours and needs to be done by a specialist.
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You came here and asked us a question, what’s the point of asking us a question if you aren’t going to entertain listening to any of our responses? Assuming you’re legit (which is a big assumption) enjoy your Phantom, and complain on the RR forums to high hell when anything goes wrong with it when it’s 16 years old like you did your LS here lol
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The bmw engine was one of my biggest hesitations. But based on what I’ve read, and who I’ve spoken to, rolls Royce has massaged this engine and perfected its flaws before it got approved to be used in the phantom. And the owner reviews I’ve read between the 7 series and the phantom bear this out too.