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Old 07-09-24, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
I agree 100%, hence my second paragraph. I was showing the lengths you have to go to and the specific vehicle configuration needed to just barely hit the low end of that range.
Saw your second paragraph.

looking at the Encore GX at 27 mpg hwy. no doubt 30-33 mpg might achievable on a long long drive. A very careful and skilled driver. Good low rolling resistance tires and absolutely no slow down or stop amd go or traffic stopping on the highway.
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the significance of the official ratings definitely vary car to car... in the LS i can easily exceed the highway estimate of 25 mpg by a significant margin (roughly 35-40% over) but in the E-class i'd need to really make a conscious effort to achieve the official 21 mpg highway figure

mercedes was also definitely taking some liberties with the 14 mpg city in that car, 14 mpg 'small village' maybe lol but definitely not in a gridlocked city
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Old 07-09-24, 12:53 PM
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I generally underperform the EPA ratings in every vehicle I've owned. Only the 540i seems to ever do better.
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Old 07-09-24, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
40 is apparently achievable in the base model with a little luck and dedicated hypermiling. I did find one 160-mile report from a hypermiler who hit 40.8 mpg in the 1.2L (137 hp) FWD-only Encore GX using DWL (Driving Without Load) and DWB (Driving Without Brakes) techniques, with a slight tailwind, maintaining a speed between 56 and 58 when not on a hill.

For a non-obsessive in the 1.3L (155 hp) AWD version just setting the cruise at 65-75 and driving? Not a chance in hell.
Exactly, that's max gaming it with constant effort. You aren't getting that at 70-85 and not optimizing for hills and stops etc
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Old 07-09-24, 01:28 PM
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Speaking of comical underperformance......I took the Jeep out to Menards just now and it needed fuel again. It's been relegated to only short trips and hauling mulch etc at this point. Freaking jarring going from my cars back to this lol!



The money drain, I really need to replace the coil and the O2s but I'm really starting to get past the point of caring. Factory coil is so weak now it can't ignite over 3k rpm the O2s are near uselessly slow so it's rich as hell.

I have nicer SUVs now and barely use the Jeep anymore, it's fate will likely be to be just given to my sister/family to use up where they live since they want a short trip vehicle they don't have to care about at all.
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Old 07-09-24, 04:58 PM
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I'm going to be on I-66 tomorrow, for at least 25 miles like was suggested, and have my camera with me. I will post the actual reading on my trip-odometer for the average (not the instant) MPG I'm getting. You will see for yourselves.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Over performing by 67%? I have a hard time envisioning that.

Putting that Into perspective that means I would be getting 40 MPG highway in my S580. That would certainly be unlikely.

If it were possible to over perform the EPA estimates by 67% I would say the EPA estimates are absurdly wrong.
are you referring to striker's audi or mmarshall's encore gx?

striker said he's getting 24 hwy vs 21 epa, which is only 14% over.
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Old 07-10-24, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
are you referring to striker's audi or mmarshall's encore gx?

striker said he's getting 24 hwy vs 21 epa, which is only 14% over.
mmarshall, striker I absolutely believe.
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Old 07-10-24, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
I did find one 160-mile report from a hypermiler who hit 40.8 mpg in the 1.2L (137 hp) FWD-only Encore GX using DWL (Driving Without Consideration) and DWB (Driving Without Brains) techniques, with a slight tailwind, maintaining a speed between 56 and 58 when not on a hill.
fixed that.
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Old 07-10-24, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fixed that.
Lol, you’ll get no argument from me on either one.
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Old 07-11-24, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
No way you’re getting 50 MPG sustained in an Encore GX.
Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
​​​not a chance.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
I'm going to be on I-66 tomorrow, for at least 25 miles like like it was suggested, and have my camera with me. I will post the actual reading on my trip-odometer for the average (not the instant) MPG I'm getting. You will see for yourselves.
Typically, on level interstates, lightly loaded, at moderate speeds (55-60), I'll get an average of 45-50 MPG.......sometimes even more, like this morning. It is EPA-rated around 30. I also varied the actual fuel-use at the pump, to verify that the trip-computer is not malfunctioning.

My car weighs around 3200 lbs. Tire pressures as recommended. I only used the A/C compressor just enough to take the edge off the heat...no more.


I told you folks that little engine would really stretch your gas dollars on the highway. I meant just what I said.



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What's the speed limit on the road you were on?
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Originally Posted by Allen K
What's the speed limit on the road you were on?
60. I was averaging between 55-60....in the right lane.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
60. I was averaging between 55-60....in the right lane.
nice mpgs mike... now here's the only thing i'll ask: have you been able to verify the accuracy of the trip computer through dividing the actual distance driven by the amount of fuel used? gotta make sure we're covering all angles here, if there's a hole in the armor steve will find it haha
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Typically, on level interstates, lightly loaded, at moderate speeds (55-60), I'll get an average of 45-50 MPG.......sometimes even more, like this morning. It is EPA-rated around 30. I also varied the actual fuel-use at the pump, to verify that the trip-computer is not malfunctioning.

My car weighs around 3200 lbs. Tire pressures as recommended. I only used the A/C compressor just enough to take the edge off the heat...no more.


I told you folks that little engine would really stretch your gas dollars on the highway. I meant just what I said.


you’re car is not even in motion. And you did not exceed EPA ratings no matter what you say. You are not accurately accounting for the way EPA measures hwy ratings.

you should make a video of your entire 25 mile trip.

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