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Old 07-07-24, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I have that engine in my Encore GX, and it has enough torque for all my normal driving needs, even with AWD.
i'm assuming you drive very gently and 'sensibly' at all times, drive in a lot of traffic too, so not surprised it's 'enough' for you. i think the 0-60 is around 9 seconds, which is certainly slow by today's standards, but if driving in traffic, that doesn't matter much. my cars do 0-60 in half that, and i have a lot of empty roads or sections of roads at least, so that power can be used safely and it's fun, and handy to pass or merge.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I have that engine in my Encore GX, and it has enough torque for all my normal driving needs, even with AWD. I get up to 50 MPG cruising on the highway at moderate speeds, even though it's EPA-rated much lower than that. And the torque speak is at a very low 1500-1700 RPM, so there is enough power to easily get you rolling from a stop. The engine's only flaw is a tendency to have more vibrations at low speeds than those with more cylinders, but even that is managed pretty well with Buick's well-known Quiet Tuning system, I'd buy another one in a heartbeat....at least if I wasn't going to keep it 200,000 miles.
‘You are claiming that you exceed the EPA hwy by 21 MPG? Seems like quite the stretch.


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Chevy still making vehicles with 155hp, LOL.
not a very impressive power output. So many better competitor engines out there

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Old 07-07-24, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i'm assuming you drive very gently and 'sensibly' at all times, drive in a lot of traffic too, so not surprised it's 'enough' for you. i think the 0-60 is around 9 seconds, which is certainly slow by today's standards, but if driving in traffic, that doesn't matter much. my cars do 0-60 in half that, and i have a lot of empty roads or sections of roads at least, so that power can be used safely and it's fun, and handy to pass or merge.
Yeah, I don't think Mike is the average driver, even among the average public who generally speed quite a bit.

I would be super frustrated with 155 HP, but my parents would probably be just fine with it.
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Old 07-07-24, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘You are claiming that you exceed the EPA hwy by 21 MPG? Seems like quite the stretch.
That's according to the trip/fuel-use computer under ideal conditions.....on level Interstate roads, at moderate temperatures, with the A/C compressor off. 45-50 constant MPG...sometimes a little more. I've monitored it several times, and checked it against the actual fill-up at the pump.

Now, in suburban stop/go driving under normal conditions, it is much lower...right around what the EPA rates it at for city-use........mid-20s.

Now, if you don't want to believe it, fine. As for me, I'll smile all the way to the gas-pumps.
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Old 07-07-24, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Yeah, I don't think Mike is the average driver, even among the average public who generally speed quite a bit.
I'm pretty much average for the stop/go conditions in my area....a little slower than average on the Interstates, and I usually keep to the right.

I would be super frustrated with 155 HP, but my parents would probably be just fine with it.
Your parents show wisdom.
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155 hp will move a little car like that. I had a 4,500 lb 4WD Explorer with 160hp, and it moved along okay. Painfully slow by todays standards of course.
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You're not getting 50MPG on the highway lol. I might believe 30...even 32, 33 but if your meter is showing 50 MPG its malfunctioning.
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Old 07-07-24, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
155 hp will move a little car like that. I had a 4,500 lb 4WD Explorer with 160hp, and it moved along okay. Painfully slow by todays standards of course.
They were that heavy? I know what you mean. We had a 1997 Bravada with the Vortec 4.3 V6, rough but powerful engine then. Slow today but back then a pretty decent performer. I won lots of races in it lol...
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They were that heavy? I know what you mean. We had a 1997 Bravada with the Vortec 4.3 V6, rough but powerful engine then. Slow today but back then a pretty decent performer. I won lots of races in it lol...
Yeah, curb weight was ~ 4,200 lbs. Mine was a fully loaded Limited with air suspension and all the goodies, so the heaviest one could be. It was the old OHV Cologne V6. The SOHC version that came out in 1997 had 210 HP and was much better.
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Old 07-07-24, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You're not getting 50MPG on the highway lol. I might believe 30...even 32, 33 but if your meter is showing 50 MPG its malfunctioning.
At first, I thought it was malfunctioning too, but my brother's Kia Seltos SX, with its 1.6L turbo-4 four, accoring to its computer, gets 40+ on the road at cruise speeds on 87 Octane, and mid/high twenties in normal stop/go commuting. His engine has about 40 more HP and 21 more ft. lbs. of torque than mine, and the vehicle is about the same weight, so, yes, I believe it. It also verifies with what actually goes into my tank at fill-ups.

Keep in mind that 45-50 is only under very ideal conditions. More typical on the road for me is around 41/42 or so, and around 25 in town. So, I don't know where the EPA gets its 29 Highway-estimate for my car from. Either it is nonsense, or both me and my brother have a knack for saving gas. And it's like I told Jill...if you don't believe it, fine......I smile all the way to the pumps.

Every vehicle I have ever owned, without exception, I get more on the highway than the EPA says I should, but, in town, it's the opposite.....I usually get either about what the EPA says or sometimes less, especially in cold weather.

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20+ average is magic to me lol! I wouldn't even know what to do with 40+, I'll learn soon but man it's going to feel weird.
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Originally Posted by Striker223


20+ average is magic to me lol!

That's the key....keeping RPMs down on the highway. My engine, like yours, turns less than 2000 RPM at my cruise-speeds.......but still doesn't lug because the torque peak is at 1600-1700.

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Originally Posted by Striker223
20+ average is magic to me lol! I wouldn't even know what to do with 40+, I'll learn soon but man it's going to feel weird.
you're trading in the audi for a for a buick gx?
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Old 07-07-24, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you're trading in the audi for a for a buick gx?

Not just a GX. Some entry-level Audi gas powered models, with inline 4s and FWD, are rated at 37 highway, so 40 or more on the highway is probably doable if driven sensibly under ideal conditions. I could probably do it myself.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall

Now, if you don't want to believe it, fine.
I believe you when you say your Encore GX gets 50MPG on the highway. 21MPG over the EPA estimate

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