Toyota Grand Highlander and Lexus TX Stop Sale
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Sure but offer the same tier of "global talent" the choice between Toyota and the big German 3 and it's clear where people tend to end up. The American brands have some killer performance teams but that's about it over here and that's only because of what those individual cars mean in an emotional context for many.
VAG in particular has so many desirable brands it's a big draw on talent, would you rather work on a GR corolla or a 911 GT3RS?
VAG in particular has so many desirable brands it's a big draw on talent, would you rather work on a GR corolla or a 911 GT3RS?
While I applaud Toyota for pushing the fun to drive car thing, they cannot take the eye off of safety and reliability. Airbags not deploying due to a window position and debris left in the engine is just amateur hr here.
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I agree. I don't know where this oft-repeated idea that Toyota would miraculously be able to "leapfrog" the competition comes from, but it hasn't been the case for either turbos or EV's. Other brands have spent the past few years if not couple decades perfecting and widely implementing their modern powertrains and other technologies, and Toyota/Lexus more or less coasted on their naturally aspirated offerings and mousepads up until very recently. Now lo and behold, they're having some of the same issues that other brands had years prior. Same can be said with EV's. The only field that Toyota has been iteratively improving time and again is their hybrid technology. But for the company that wrote the rulebook on Kaizen, it's strange to see them more or less ignore it.
I still can't wrap my head around how poor the product planning and engineering was for the outgoing ES where they were physically unable to fit an AWD system with the V6.
I still can't wrap my head around how poor the product planning and engineering was for the outgoing ES where they were physically unable to fit an AWD system with the V6.
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Dude you must be stuck in 2020. Toyota not investing in EVs was deliberate and they were vindicated with the fevered adoption of hybrids and guess who makes the best hybrids and for the longest time? Toyota made an EV and an ICE drivetrain work together, in the same car! Let's not assume they dont know how to shove big electric motors and big battery packs into a car
Speaking of hybrids, Toyota wasn't ready either. It's another failure of Kaizen on Toyota's part that they're unable to allocate a sufficient battery supply for their PHEV's and EV's, and even their regular hybrids are having major supply issues.
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Sure man, I never mentioned those companies btw only Porsche and I did so for a reason. A Camry is 10 years behind the competition so I would certainly hope it's at least got reliable going for it, issue is it's not 2004 anymore and almost all car are "Lexus level" reliable now so as MANY people on this very forum and myself have found there is no reason anymore to stick with Toyota/Lexus out of fear of reliability issues
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I worked in aerospace in a previous life and you'd be surprised by how many engineers are more interested in owning and improving winglets vs. jet engines.
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The point is 'best' is subjective. There are fantastic engineers that are more interested in building the most reliable engine vs. the quickest or most powerful. If you're looking for those on the cutting edge, you'd be looking at the racing teams and not the consumer vehicle teams.
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Sure man, I never mentioned those companies btw only Porsche and I did so for a reason. A Camry is 10 years behind the competition so I would certainly hope it's at least got reliable going for it, issue is it's not 2004 anymore and almost all car are "Lexus level" reliable now so as MANY people on this very forum and myself have found there is no reason anymore to stick with Toyota/Lexus out of fear of reliability issues
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How are we defining impressive?
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The point is 'best' is subjective. There are fantastic engineers that are more interested in building the most reliable engine vs. the quickest or most powerful. If you're looking for those on the cutting edge, you'd be looking at the racing teams and not the consumer vehicle teams.
for you it's about go fast only, but even your clunker jeep is impressive in some ways.
the camry being now all in on hybrid is super efficient, fast enough, likely very reliable, and they stepped up the interior in a huge way. i'm not camry super fan, but i'm impressed.