2025 BMW M5 Embraces Hybrid Power With 717 HP, But Is Slower Than Previous Gen
07-02-24, 10:38 AM
#61
Lexus Test Driver
All the luxury automakers do this with their performance brand.
BMW M-sport
Lexus F-sport
Mercedes has the AMG line or whatever.
IDK about Audi, maybe they don't.
BMW M-sport
Lexus F-sport
Mercedes has the AMG line or whatever.
IDK about Audi, maybe they don't.
07-02-24, 10:42 AM
#62
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07-02-24, 11:30 AM
#64
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07-02-24, 11:32 AM
#65
drives cars
I asked my wife if she'd ever go X4 or X6, and she just flatly said no. They are ugly, she said. I still don't get it, but apparently they sell. Perhaps the best-looking coupe SUV, IMO, is the Cayenne coupe - it just looks like a pumped-up Macan.
As for the M5, I'd rather an X5 M instead if only for the reason that they weigh basically the same now, while the X5 is more practical. Seems like a no-brainer.
07-02-24, 11:35 AM
#66
Lexus Test Driver
Its short term sales volume but diluting ///M for the long haul.
Ferrari could have easily made $150-200k sports car but that would have hurt their brand image/value.
The issue is most of these CEOs are just looking at results for next 2-3yrs and don’t care about nurturing a brand over next decade.
07-02-24, 11:47 AM
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07-02-24, 03:09 PM
#68
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neither is a great looker, but amazingly, the mb suv is close to the same weight and 0-60 is 3.7 vs. 3.4 for m5.
of those 2 i'd still take the mb suv every time. but if you want a ballistically fast car, the ioniq 5 n is even faster than both and WAY cheaper, and still practical.
my point is, i think i agree with those who said this will sell in very small numbers.
of those 2 i'd still take the mb suv every time. but if you want a ballistically fast car, the ioniq 5 n is even faster than both and WAY cheaper, and still practical.
my point is, i think i agree with those who said this will sell in very small numbers.
07-02-24, 03:18 PM
#69
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07-02-24, 03:23 PM
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07-02-24, 03:42 PM
#71
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The S6 is still legit but the S4 is just a 3.0 engine and doesn't have the stupid level brakes etc the RS4 has
07-02-24, 03:44 PM
#72
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neither is a great looker, but amazingly, the mb suv is close to the same weight and 0-60 is 3.7 vs. 3.4 for m5.
of those 2 i'd still take the mb suv every time. but if you want a ballistically fast car, the ioniq 5 n is even faster than both and WAY cheaper, and still practical.
my point is, i think i agree with those who said this will sell in very small numbers.
of those 2 i'd still take the mb suv every time. but if you want a ballistically fast car, the ioniq 5 n is even faster than both and WAY cheaper, and still practical.
my point is, i think i agree with those who said this will sell in very small numbers.
Stock turbos. German V8s are on another level
07-04-24, 07:10 AM
#75
What a disappointment and even without the beaver/pig nose grill, they still managed to make it ugly.
My old neighbor has an M5CS and it was the fastest car I've ever ridden in (and I used to race 750cc street bikes).
My old neighbor has an M5CS and it was the fastest car I've ever ridden in (and I used to race 750cc street bikes).