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Old 07-05-24, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Crappy Hyundai has got something for ya. $19,900
oh look, another crappy baseless comment about hyundai.
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Old 07-05-24, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
My first car was a 1989 Pontiac Firebird with an anemic 2.8 V6 from the 80"s and it still had more power than that lol. Only car I've ever owned with less than 240 HP.
That GM 2.8 V6 was not powerful by any means. That was the powertrain where I learned "turn off the AC if you need to merge or pass someone". But you could beat the **** out of it and it simply did not care. There was literally no difference, from a reliability perspective, between driving like a grandma and going WOT in every gear all the time.
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Old 07-05-24, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
That GM 2.8 V6 was not powerful by any means. That was the powertrain where I learned "turn off the AC if you need to merge or pass someone". But you could beat the **** out of it and it simply did not care. There was literally no difference, from a reliability perspective, between driving like a grandma and going WOT in every gear all the time.
It was going to fail or not fail regardless of the beating. I abused the hell out of it. It leaked coolant like a seive.

I think 0-60 was somewhere around 13-14 seconds. I got it with 170k on it, so it's not like the compression was great either. It was so slow. 135 HP from the factory, probably 100 when i got it lol.
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Old 07-06-24, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
It was going to fail or not fail regardless of the beating. I abused the hell out of it. It leaked coolant like a seive.

I think 0-60 was somewhere around 13-14 seconds. I got it with 170k on it, so it's not like the compression was great either. It was so slow. 135 HP from the factory, probably 100 when i got it lol.
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I can remember when that 2.8L V6 first came out in the FWD X-body compacts in 1980. It was pretty quick for the time.....the auto magazines tested a Citation X-11 with the wide-ratio 4-speed manual at 9.8 seconds from 0-60. For a mass-produced domestic sedan of that Malaise -period, anything 10 seconds or under was considered quite good.
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