2025 Escalade Refresh
#211
Lexus Test Driver
the amazing thing about the lc though is the exhaust is truly jekyl and hyde. if you drive it 'normally' it's not loud at all. it's only when you basically floor it and let the revs go high that it gets intense.
i love that split personality. and with the 10 speed, at 75mph you're only doing 1500 rpm.
i love that split personality. and with the 10 speed, at 75mph you're only doing 1500 rpm.
How is that transmission? It's it imperceptible as it goes through all those gears?
I wasn't a huge fan of these transmissions with this many gears, but the 10 speed in the Yukon is the smoothest and most imperceptible transmission I've ever experienced.
And I haven't even tried the ZF 8 speed!!!!
I wasn't a huge fan of these transmissions with this many gears, but the 10 speed in the Yukon is the smoothest and most imperceptible transmission I've ever experienced.
And I haven't even tried the ZF 8 speed!!!!
#213
Lexus Champion
I grew up around muscle cars and loud trucks. I love the sound of a well designed engine revving through the RPM range, especially a good V8. I was actually frustrated with how quiet my truck was when I bought it, so I deleted the resonator and installed a magnaflow muffler.
For sure!
#214
Lexus Fanatic
On the other hand, maybe (?) your former experience with the Miata is the reason WHY you like a quiet Hush-Mobile today.
One of the reasons I got to like quiet Buicks and Lincolns, even at a young age, was that I learned to drive in an early-60s Plymouth Valiant, which had a lot of noise even by the standards of the day....Chrysler products were not as well-insulated as Ford or GM products back then, the Torqueflite transmission was durable but noisy and whined, their sloppy assembly allowed for wind noise through the gaps/cracks, and the unibody frame and torsion-bar front/leaf-rear suspension transmitted road noise like a telephone line.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-25-24 at 11:01 AM.
#215
Lexus Test Driver
#216
Lexus Champion
Active exhausts allow both loud and quiet, I hate if a car has a high tier engine and is too quiet. My Audis are severe offenders here, the LS f-sport intake resonator allowed the 460 to have nice induction tone but the turbo car doesn't have much unless you are fully on it.
The W12 is too quiet period, it never gets loud and while it does have a very unique induction sound it's quiet even at full bore. It has a factory active exhaust but again it's too quiet, I'm going to replace the rear mufflers with a valved setup for tunnel runs etc.
The W12 is too quiet period, it never gets loud and while it does have a very unique induction sound it's quiet even at full bore. It has a factory active exhaust but again it's too quiet, I'm going to replace the rear mufflers with a valved setup for tunnel runs etc.
#217
Lexus Fanatic
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How is that transmission? It's it imperceptible as it goes through all those gears?
I wasn't a huge fan of these transmissions with this many gears, but the 10 speed in the Yukon is the smoothest and most imperceptible transmission I've ever experienced.
And I haven't even tried the ZF 8 speed!!!!
I wasn't a huge fan of these transmissions with this many gears, but the 10 speed in the Yukon is the smoothest and most imperceptible transmission I've ever experienced.
And I haven't even tried the ZF 8 speed!!!!
#218
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
On the other hand, maybe (?) your former experience with the Miata is the reason WHY you like a quiet Hush-Mobile today.
The W12 is too quiet period, it never gets loud and while it does have a very unique induction sound it's quiet even at full bore. It has a factory active exhaust but again it's too quiet, I'm going to replace the rear mufflers with a valved setup for tunnel runs etc.
#219
Pole Position
I've sold it now, but until recently I had a pretty heavily modified NC Miata Club and it was actually quite civilized with the top down, particularly with the wind deflector in place. We found it perfectly serviceable for long trips, and we did plenty of them. The main issue wasn't wind noise as much as it was being tall in a car with limited legroom and a manual transmission.
#220
Lexus Champion
not many years ago? try 17, lol. anyway i think i did one long trip in it and yes, too loud with road/wind noise. it wasn't for that purpose for me. it was a joy to drive on twisty road or enjoy short drives with the top down, especially at night i loved, and while it had more road noise than a typical car, the engine wasn't very loud. i enjoyed the miata thoroughly for what it is, a light, exquisitely balanced sports car.
speculate all you want, but wrong. i've always liked quiet cars in general and the miata wasn't my main vehicle.
you're probably one of the youngest drivers of an audi w12 car so your needs/wants are, uh, pretty unique.
speculate all you want, but wrong. i've always liked quiet cars in general and the miata wasn't my main vehicle.
you're probably one of the youngest drivers of an audi w12 car so your needs/wants are, uh, pretty unique.
#221
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
the amazing thing about the lc though is the exhaust is truly jekyl and hyde. if you drive it 'normally' it's not loud at all. it's only when you basically floor it and let the revs go high that it gets intense.
i love that split personality. and with the 10 speed, at 75mph you're only doing 1500 rpm.
i love that split personality. and with the 10 speed, at 75mph you're only doing 1500 rpm.
#222
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
#223
Lexus Champion
it's great, shifts pretty seamless (especially when driving gently) and programming is slick depending on drive mode. in sport s+ it limits to 8 speeds for example, and downshifts (with rev matching) if you breathe. i love the in between sport s mode which i find drives more smoothly when being a bit more aggressive than just cruising because in normal/comfort it's eager to upshift and more reluctant to downshift, so if being more aggressive in those modes, it's less smooth. anyway, something for everyone there.
#224
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Thats how it is with the S Classes too, you find little things and you're like "wow thats really smart"