General Car Conversation 2024 - part 2
08-19-24, 07:02 PM
#646
Anyway. Today I got my swaybar bushings replaced. Car drives so much quieter and tighter now. And it feels smoother hitting bumps at speed. Now just muted thumps instead of clunking and banging like before. No more squeaking over speed bumps. No weird crumpling noises when driving over rippled pavement at low speeds. Feels like a new car!
08-19-24, 07:52 PM
#647
Lead Lap
Just got a letter in the mail from my local BMW dealer. They showed $32k incentives on a XM, must be really bad if they have to offer that much of a discount. Funny because last night I was behind one and it didn’t look that bad, just not worth $180k.
08-19-24, 07:58 PM
#648
Lexus Test Driver
Good golly, they're proud of it at $180k. Lol
08-20-24, 04:02 AM
#650
Lexus Fanatic
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08-20-24, 04:09 AM
#651
Lead Lap
08-20-24, 07:38 AM
#653
08-20-24, 08:11 AM
#654
Lexus Test Driver
08-20-24, 11:07 AM
#656
drives cars
I've seen a few XMs in person. They look garish to me. The wheels, especially, just do not work at all. I also don't like the rear hatch. It just looks unfinished, somehow. There's no BMW badge (apart from an etched one on the rear glass), so maybe that's why.
08-20-24, 12:46 PM
#657
Lexus Fanatic
Toyota Highlander has a gold trim edition. Toyota fail as well.
Anyway. Today I got my swaybar bushings replaced. Car drives so much quieter and tighter now. And it feels smoother hitting bumps at speed. Now just muted thumps instead of clunking and banging like before. No more squeaking over speed bumps. No weird crumpling noises when driving over rippled pavement at low speeds. Feels like a new car!
I can’t believe how accommodating the back seat can be. And the materials and customization is amazing. I can’t imagine the reliability is any good but it certainly has all the features one could ask for. Something else I really liked is that sitting in the drivers seat, the vehicle has excellent ergonomics. Everything seems to be within reach, especially the screen. Perhaps there were too many buttons on the steering wheel, but that is no big deal But the view out from the front windshield is excellent
a little odd. I was gonna put someone on my hitch for my new 4R so if some rear ended me they’d go right it to longer tow hitch extension. Never did get around to it.
when the next economic downturn or the next recession hits they’re gonna have a serious problem selling these vehicles. The price point they are, they will just not sell. They really need small vehicles that are hybrids that could be sold to the masses. When a recession hits, lots of buyers or existing owners tend to downsize their vehicles. General Motors probably spent an extra extraordinary amount of money on the development of this vehicle and the plant conversion to make it if the plant in Oakville Ontario, is indicative of what might happen. Likely a serious prom is gonna happen at General Motors.
now at the Oakville Ontario plant Ford, who has lost I believe $5 billion on the con conversion is now going to make heavy duty, Ford F150, diesel truck trucks and gasoline truck. Lots of members on here predicted that.
I guess everyone sees things differently ^^. What is the appeal to you?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 08-20-24 at 01:05 PM.
08-20-24, 07:37 PM
#658
Lead Lap
‘I would say the XM is a very strange design. Probably will get canceled soon.
‘Yeah. RR is next level. Maybe a step up from MB. I really liked the screen and haptic feedback. Does your S580 have haptic feedback?
I can’t believe how accommodating the back seat can be. And the materials and customization is amazing. I can’t imagine the reliability is any good but it certainly has all the features one could ask for. Something else I really liked is that sitting in the drivers seat, the vehicle has excellent ergonomics. Everything seems to be within reach, especially the screen. Perhaps there were too many buttons on the steering wheel, but that is no big deal But the view out from the front windshield is
I think GM is going to regret making the EV hummer.
when the next economic downturn or the next recession hits they’re gonna have a serious problem selling these vehicles. The price point they are, they will just not sell. They really need small vehicles that are hybrids that could be sold to the masses. When a recession hits, lots of buyers or existing owners tend to downsize their vehicles. General Motors probably spent an extra extraordinary amount of money on the development of this vehicle and the plant conversion to make it if the plant in Oakville Ontario, is indicative of what might happen. Likely a serious prom is gonna happen at General Motors.
‘Yeah. RR is next level. Maybe a step up from MB. I really liked the screen and haptic feedback. Does your S580 have haptic feedback?
I can’t believe how accommodating the back seat can be. And the materials and customization is amazing. I can’t imagine the reliability is any good but it certainly has all the features one could ask for. Something else I really liked is that sitting in the drivers seat, the vehicle has excellent ergonomics. Everything seems to be within reach, especially the screen. Perhaps there were too many buttons on the steering wheel, but that is no big deal But the view out from the front windshield is
I think GM is going to regret making the EV hummer.
when the next economic downturn or the next recession hits they’re gonna have a serious problem selling these vehicles. The price point they are, they will just not sell. They really need small vehicles that are hybrids that could be sold to the masses. When a recession hits, lots of buyers or existing owners tend to downsize their vehicles. General Motors probably spent an extra extraordinary amount of money on the development of this vehicle and the plant conversion to make it if the plant in Oakville Ontario, is indicative of what might happen. Likely a serious prom is gonna happen at General Motors.
As for the RR, I feel like they have the most comfortable seats of anything I test drove recently in that price range. The only problem is the chances of having issues is more likely than other cars.
The Hummer will probably be cancelled too. I’ve only seen one on the road and I thought it was pretty awesome. Compared to the cybertruck which is the same price, I would much rather have a Hummer but I would imagine the cybertruck is a better overall vehicle.
08-20-24, 08:44 PM
#659
Lexus Champion
100% the XM will get canceled, total failure because it is way overpriced.
As for the RR, I feel like they have the most comfortable seats of anything I test drove recently in that price range. The only problem is the chances of having issues is more likely than other cars.
The Hummer will probably be cancelled too. I’ve only seen one on the road and I thought it was pretty awesome. Compared to the cybertruck which is the same price, I would much rather have a Hummer but I would imagine the cybertruck is a better overall vehicle.
As for the RR, I feel like they have the most comfortable seats of anything I test drove recently in that price range. The only problem is the chances of having issues is more likely than other cars.
The Hummer will probably be cancelled too. I’ve only seen one on the road and I thought it was pretty awesome. Compared to the cybertruck which is the same price, I would much rather have a Hummer but I would imagine the cybertruck is a better overall vehicle.
08-20-24, 09:09 PM
#660
Lexus Test Driver