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Old 08-29-24, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Looking at the 11th Gen Civic Forum, people have paid as much as a $10k markup. Some have been able to negotiate it down a little, but I don't think you will be able to get a 2024 at MSRP
I believe it. My friend sells Hondas. Last FL5 he said they sold also went for $10k over.

There are a few dealers willing to sell for sticker just have to widen your search. Some dealers will pick you up from the airport if you fly in or even comp your flight. Dealer where I got my truck from comped over half the cost of my flight.
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Old 08-29-24, 08:58 PM
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4 parking spots??? 😔

BTW That model X in the background was doubled parked as usual. 🤣
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Old 08-29-24, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I believe it. My friend sells Hondas. Last FL5 he said they sold also went for $10k over.

There are a few dealers willing to sell for sticker just have to widen your search. Some dealers will pick you up from the airport if you fly in or even comp your flight. Dealer where I got my truck from comped over half the cost of my flight.
Wow, didn't realize it got that type of special treatment. Almost wish I had bought one in 2018 instead of the Si, just didn't want to spend $34k plus whatever the markup was back then. Plus the styling at my age screamed "midlife crisis" 🤣
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Old 08-29-24, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Wow, didn't realize it got that type of special treatment. Almost wish I had bought one in 2018 instead of the Si, just didn't want to spend $34k plus whatever the markup was back then. Plus the styling at my age screamed "midlife crisis" 🤣
It's ok, I've been in a midlife crisis for last 10 years and don't plan on stopping. Lol

I really need to stop looking at trucks.
I don't need one but I want one.

With a dump bed. Lol
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Old 08-29-24, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex


4 parking spots??? 😔

BTW That model X in the background was doubled parked as usual. 🤣
Looks like some entitlement going on here 😂
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Old 08-29-24, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
It's ok, I've been in a midlife crisis for last 10 years and don't plan on stopping. Lol

I really need to stop looking at trucks.
I don't need one but I want one.

With a dump bed. Lol
I've already done my midlife crisis stint
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Old 08-29-24, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
It's ok, I've been in a midlife crisis for last 10 years and don't plan on stopping. Lol

I really need to stop looking at trucks.
I don't need one but I want one.
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Old 08-30-24, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Wow, didn't realize it got that type of special treatment. Almost wish I had bought one in 2018 instead of the Si, just didn't want to spend $34k plus whatever the markup was back then. Plus the styling at my age screamed "midlife crisis" 🤣
I totally get it. It’s not for everyone.
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Old 08-31-24, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Speaking of trucks….

Since Back to the Future has been on Netflix and I’m laid up recovering I think to myself “what would shock someone from 1955, or 1985 even?”

The prevalence of pickup trucks and giant SUV that are literally luxury- car nice would seriously confuse someone from the past at first. Trucks used to be just crap that did their jobs well but that was it. No frills.

I have no desire for a luxury sedan anymore, not even an S-Class… not really. My $150,000 would go for an Escalade V.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
The prevalence of pickup trucks and giant SUV that are literally luxury- car nice would seriously confuse someone from the past at first. Trucks used to be just crap that did their jobs well but that was it. No frills.
That's a good point. Trucks for 95% of our lives were strictly utility.

The first pickup I remember that tried to be luxury was that Lincoln Mark around 2008 or so.
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Old 08-31-24, 09:38 AM
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I would have no interest in driving an Escalade V every day. As a fun car sure. No SUV matches the driving experience of a luxury sedan
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Speaking of trucks….

Since Back to the Future has been on Netflix and I’m laid up recovering I think to myself “what would shock someone from 1955, or 1985 even?”
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I saw this on X yesterday. Lol



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Old 08-31-24, 02:09 PM
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I would have no interest in driving an Escalade V every day. As a fun car sure. No SUV matches the driving experience of a luxury sedan
Yeah but doesn’t your S-Class just beam off and not even start? That god awful 48V system. My friend hates his, tried to tell him. He wants his W222 back.

So, EV silence starting up and driving off in a luxury sedan which is fine if it’s your thing.

Meanwhile I’d rather have this:

A BOF won’t have luxury car dynamics, I agree… but who cares, personally. GM has these things so honed in, they are excellent vehicles. They ride and drive quite quite well, I guess we just don’t agree. The Denali continues to blow me away. It shrinks big time driving it and is so easy and pleasant to drive and frankly doesn’t behave the way you describe your BOF experiences… not that I’m saying you’re wrong.
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I considered the V for about a second and built one online just to see how much it would be and it was in the ballpark but I just don’t need something that big and I like a smaller SUV that handles better anyway vs a land barge. Still a cool car and I’ve only seen two ever in person. I like them but wish there was something more that distinguished it from the regular model besides the square exhaust tips.
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Old 08-31-24, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Yeah but doesn’t your S-Class just beam off and not even start? That god awful 48V system. My friend hates his, tried to tell him. He wants his W222 back.
The sound of the starter isn't a consideration for me at all, the Escalade V is too raucous for me day to day, I like quiet cars...which you like too hence why you love the LS430. I don't miss my W222 at all, the W223 is a better car in every way, better riding, quieter, smoother, more powerful, way better technology. I do think the W222 was better looking, but the 223 is also beautiful. I've even grown to love the interior and the screens. The 48v system doesn't change the driving feel of the car at all. In fact I have even started leaving the stop/start on and mostly don't even notice it. Plus it gets 20% better fuel economy than the S560.

The W223 is far and away the quietest car I have ever had. Its really amazing, and I've had some quiet cars as you know. I got both cars washed today and the difference in the carwash of the sound of the mitters slapping against the car is incredible.

Meanwhile I’d rather have this:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qqO8ZQeBp...NNopEk70czuqcG
Then why do you have and extole the virtues of an LS430 and LX570 both of which are well known to be incredibly quiet and refined?

A BOF won’t have luxury car dynamics, I agree… but who cares, personally. GM has these things so honed in, they are excellent vehicles. They ride and drive quite quite well, I guess we just don’t agree. The Denali continues to blow me away. It shrinks big time driving it and is so easy and pleasant to drive and frankly doesn’t behave the way you describe your BOF experiences… not that I’m saying you’re wrong.
You don't drive as much as I do, I care lol. Driving for you is more of an event than it is for me. I am in and out of a car all day long, I park them all over the place, park on the street downtown, park in parking garages. Living with a huge truck like that is just not for me. Even the week I had the GLS, by the end I couldn't wait to get my S Class back. Its just nowhere near as relaxing and easy to live with day to day, and that vehicle is unibody and much smaller/less trucklike than a GM SUV.

Not to say its a bad vehicle, its not they are great vehicles they just aren't for me for daily use. As a family vehicle for road trips and stuff like that, absolutely...it would be my first choice.

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