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Old 09-06-24, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wow, paranoia much? a lot of effort to attempt to outsmart google etc.

at some point, unless you want to drive ancient cars you'll have no choice but to comply.
He forgot to mention his tinfoil hat 🤣
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Old 09-06-24, 07:25 PM
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Old 09-06-24, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Don't compare it to a V8 dude. It's also not in the same class as an A4, which is more luxury. Anyway it's not a car I would ever buy, but I admire it for what it is, and the engineering that went into it. I almost couldn't tell it was fwd
Price price price, why buy the civic when you can have a 5.0 instead? Why buy a civic when you can have an S4/S3 or a far nicer A8 with a warranty term match APR tune that brings your performance past the civic with a full warranty?
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Old 09-06-24, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
wow, paranoia much? a lot of effort to attempt to outsmart google etc.

at some point, unless you want to drive ancient cars you'll have no choice but to comply.
No I'm just watching what is happening more and more often, terms of sale being changing after the fact is so common in the tech world that people somehow became okay with it. I'm not
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Old 09-06-24, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Price price price, why buy the civic when you can have a 5.0 instead? Why buy a civic when you can have an S4/S3 or a far nicer A8 with a warranty term match APR tune that brings your performance past the civic with a full warranty?
Some people want something cheaper that's not a fuel hog, but tracks good. I get it not for you, it not for me, but that doesn't make it a bad car. TBH if I ever tracked, it would be something like a Toyota 86 where I could take it to it's limits without killing myself. Straight line would be the 5.0
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Old 09-06-24, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
No I'm just watching what is happening more and more often, terms of sale being changing after the fact is so common in the tech world that people somehow became okay with it. I'm not
Join the club, me either.
I don't want my car hard wired to the internet.

I may wear a tin foil hat sometimes and that's ok.
And, I see thru the matrix... Lol

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Old 09-06-24, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Price price price, why buy the civic when you can have a 5.0 instead? Why buy a civic when you can have an S4/S3 or a far nicer A8 with a warranty term match APR tune that brings your performance past the civic with a full warranty?
To have a backseat where people with legs can sit. Car is track ready out the box. S3 is more expensive. S4 is almost $20k more expensive. Again I haven’t seen an A4, S3 or S4 on the tracks I’ve been to. Honestly don’t see too many 5.0 GTs. From Ford I see GT350s. Couple times GT500. A8 is more than the cost of the type R and the 1794 Tundra tow vehicle that hauls the R to the track. A8 = straight line luxury car. Two totally different cars. Again the Audi doesn’t have a reliable track record. I have a track day coming up. I’ll take a pic of how many Audis I see.

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Some people want something cheaper that's not a fuel hog, but tracks good. I get it not for you, it not for me, but that doesn't make it a bad car. TBH if I ever tracked, it would be something like a Toyota 86 where I could take it to it's limits without killing myself. Straight line would be the 5.0
Buy a GR86, GR Corolla or GR Supra and Toyota gives you a free track day with in car instructor. See them all the time. Friends I track with are instructors. The GR86 is a good track car.
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Old 09-07-24, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
To have a backseat where people with legs can sit. Car is track ready out the box. S3 is more expensive. S4 is almost $20k more expensive. Again I haven’t seen an A4, S3 or S4 on the tracks I’ve been to. Honestly don’t see too many 5.0 GTs. From Ford I see GT350s. Couple times GT500. A8 is more than the cost of the type R and the 1794 Tundra tow vehicle that hauls the R to the track. A8 = straight line luxury car. Two totally different cars. Again the Audi doesn’t have a reliable track record. I have a track day coming up. I’ll take a pic of how many Audis I see.



Buy a GR86, GR Corolla or GR Supra and Toyota gives you a free track day with in car instructor. See them all the time. Friends I track with are instructors. The GR86 is a good track car.
Some just dont want a German car. I am pretty amazed by the capabilities of the Type R. What the fastest you’ve got it on the track? Tires…what you use and how fast you go through them”
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Old 09-07-24, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Some people want something cheaper that's not a fuel hog, but tracks good. I get it not for you, it not for me, but that doesn't make it a bad car. TBH if I ever tracked, it would be something like a Toyota 86 where I could take it to it's limits without killing myself. Straight line would be the 5.0
30 mpg is a fuel hog?
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Old 09-07-24, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
To have a backseat where people with legs can sit. Car is track ready out the box. S3 is more expensive. S4 is almost $20k more expensive. Again I haven’t seen an A4, S3 or S4 on the tracks I’ve been to. Honestly don’t see too many 5.0 GTs. From Ford I see GT350s. Couple times GT500. A8 is more than the cost of the type R and the 1794 Tundra tow vehicle that hauls the R to the track. A8 = straight line luxury car. Two totally different cars. Again the Audi doesn’t have a reliable track record. I have a track day coming up. I’ll take a pic of how many Audis I see.



Buy a GR86, GR Corolla or GR Supra and Toyota gives you a free track day with in car instructor. See them all the time. Friends I track with are instructors. The GR86 is a good track car.
The type R starts at 46k, an S4 is 55k........a A4 is cheaper than a type R and both are leagues better cars overall. Lets you avoid a cheap interior and FWD with way more potential for less cost on top of just being better cars
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Old 09-07-24, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Some just dont want a German car. I am pretty amazed by the capabilities of the Type R. What the fastest you’ve got it on the track? Tires…what you use and how fast you go through them”
142mph before braking down to 55mph corkscrew turn. I used to run Falken 660s and I would get 5 weekends out of them. I tried to squeeze 6 weekends out of them but the grip wasn’t there and it was taking me 3-4 laps to find heat/whatever grip left in them. Now I’m running Kumho V730s and I have 4 weekends on them so far. So far they are holding up a little better.

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The type R starts at 46k, an S4 is 55k........a A4 is cheaper than a type R and both are leagues better cars overall. Lets you avoid a cheap interior and FWD with way more potential for less cost on top of just being better cars
Again I paid $38k for my ‘21 Type R. I still have the window sticker. The current 2023+ Type R is around $44k. Audi may have a more luxurious interior. That’s not the point of the Type R. It’s a civic touring spec that you can track. 2017 Type R was $34k. Same car except the ‘20-‘21 have Honda sensing and a slightly larger front grill for better cooling.

Maybe I need to brush up on the A4 on what makes it better other than its luxury interior. For $8k - $17k premium I would expect more than I have. I will keep an eye 👀out for them on track.

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Old 09-07-24, 08:28 AM
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I hope all the data privacy zealots are remembering to turn their phones completely off before every trip.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
30 mpg is a fuel hog?
Are you talking about the 5.0? I've rented the GT several times, and I've never once gotten anywhere near 30, the best I've gotten was 23 taking it easy on the highway. In 4 days driving in San Antonio I filled up the tank twice. Ecoboost version I got near 30. My friends M4 Comp averages around 22.

At the end of the day, the Type R is a Civic, normal driving mpg is way more efficient than a 5.0, and it's way more practical... once you get past the styling
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Old 09-07-24, 10:58 AM
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WHEW….gold is out, and was out in 2017 too. Looks awful on an otherwise nice 460.


Took this picture downtown last night:


This popped up on my FB:


Hope everyone is having a nice weekend!

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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
142mph before braking down to 55mph corkscrew turn. I used to run Falken 660s and I would get 5 weekends out of them. I tried to squeeze 6 weekends out of them but the grip wasn’t there and it was taking me 3-4 laps to find heat/whatever grip left in them. Now I’m running Kumho V730s and I have 4 weekends on them so far. So far they are holding up a little better.



What were the OEM tires? 142 is impressive. You able to fit a helmet in there? I just read that your car is a four seater. What type of seats you got? Is there a reason why there is no awd? Honda has a very good class super handling awd…surprised not available

I will be honest. Never really knew much about the Type R until you have been writing about it. It was the official pace car of the Indy in Toronto




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