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Old 09-08-24, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
nice. guess you haven't stood beside one. and since it came up to my CHIN (not the top of my head), it wouldn't matter how tall my head is.
Actually I have rented them and driven them for weeks at a time, you’re significantly overstating it. 4.5 feet tall at the windshield (54 inches). Your chin is not 4.5 feet off the ground if you are 6’3”

Just for grins I just measured my chin, it’s 63 inches off the ground and I am 72 inches tall. You’re 75 inches tall so unless your head 21 inches tall your chin is way above the 54 inch hood height of a stock Tahoe.

A Tahoe and you are the same height (75 inches) so unless your head is the same height as the whole greenhouse of the vehicle you are overstating it, but yeah they are really big.

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Old 09-08-24, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
...which they get with slightly raised econoboxes with 20'' wheelz, low profile tirez, run-of-the-mill drivetrain, basically no more clearance than any non-sporty car... yeah, very versatile. Given how many places I take my GS where people think you need a jimny or something makes you really cringe.

A cherokee is versatile. A wagon is versatile. A run-of-the-mill nissan rogue is a waste of space.
I don’t like where it’s heading. I am not a fan of CUVs. They are high compact cars with bigger tires. They drive like ***. I particularly dislike the RAV4 and CRV, but mostly because most people who have them are awful drivers. Honda inflated the CRV to the point they introduced the HRV which is similar in size to the original CRV.
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Originally Posted by link13
I don’t like where it’s heading. I am not a fan of CUVs. They are high compact cars with bigger tires. They drive like ***. I particularly dislike the RAV4 and CRV, but mostly because most people who have them are awful drivers. Honda inflated the CRV to the point they introduced the HRV which is similar in size to the original CRV.
Just like with sedans, the quality of the CUV matters. Of course a Rav or CRV drives like an economy car, that’s what they are. Drive a better crossover and just like a sedan they drive much better.

I know several people with both RAV4s and CRVs and actually they drive and ride quite well. “Everyone who drives one is a terrible driver” is obviously nonsense.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
seems to me gm vehicles have always been about being 'bigger' than the competition. this tahoe i just saw is MASSIVE. i'm 6'3 and the hood was level with my chin.
There's just something about this generation of GM vehicles that makes them seem so huge compared to the previous gen. This video shows the size increase from the 20 models to the 21s:

Their pickup trucks just keep getting bigger and bigger as well. My company's fleet has about 20 Silverado/Sierra 3500HD's across 3 generations now and the 20+'s are huge compared to the previous two gens. They're hard to get into without step bars even for someone who is 6 feet tall. The 20+'s all have such high hood heights that you just can't see in front of you, and since they're base Pro models, no cameras or anything. You would think that this would be a safety issue from just not seeing a small child or animal in front of you.
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Originally Posted by Zmon
Their pickup trucks just keep getting bigger and bigger as well. My company's fleet has about 20 Silverado/Sierra 3500HD's across 3 generations now and the 20+'s are huge compared to the previous two gens. They're hard to get into without step bars even for someone who is 6 feet tall. The 20+'s all have such high hood heights that you just can't see in front of you, and since they're base Pro models, no cameras or anything. You would think that this would be a safety issue from just not seeing a small child or animal in front of you.
agreed. the fronts of gm pickups and large suv's are ludicrously tall just to make a statement, even if they're unnecessary.
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Old 09-08-24, 09:32 AM
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A lot of it is styling that makes them look taller than they are. Expeditions are actually taller…
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Old 09-08-24, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
I keep forgetting you are in Cali where traffic is insanely bad, 20s average I wouldn't consider bad at all, it's a gas hog when it's under 15mpg in my book. Around here we are far closer to highway mpg as the average unless we go south into the city proper
I live in NorCal, and traffic is not so bad here, I drive against traffic commuting to work. Where I've driven the Mustang GT several times is in San Antonio Texas when I've gone to our office, these are rentals. BTW over the years of coming out here, I've rented Dodge Chargers, Cadillac CTS (Both 2.0L turbo and 3.6L V6), Toyota Sequoia, and everything down to a Nissan Versa, which I would say is the worst car I've ever driven. The commute to the office from my hotel is short, but in the evening when I go for dinner it's usually 10 miles or more each way, and the highways are big and wide open at night. And although gas is cheap out there, I end up spending almost $100 on gas when I get something like a GT.

Yeah, I consider anything in the 20's to be gas hogs . Even my Sienna, which averages maybe 25 mpg is a gas hog in my mind. You have to understand my reference point, my Model Y and Ioniq 5 averages 120 and my Polestar on a bad day averages 109. And with gas out here nearly $5 a gallon, gas hog=no good 🤣

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Old 09-08-24, 10:31 AM
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I was watching a video where a guy was roadtripping in an Escalade V which gets 16 MPG HWY lol, he said “you can get over 300 miles of highway range” LOL! Good lord.
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Originally Posted by geko29
But then again, so is the Altima that it is gradually replacing.
I don't know, I think Altima and Rogue drivers are in a different class, at least out here where I live. They drive extremely aggressive, and they constantly want to prove their cars are fast. I do get some red light challenges from Camry, Accord, Civic, and sometimes the occasional Corolla driver, but they usually give up after the second attempt when I gap them so bad they realize they are just making a fool out themselves...but not Nissan Altima and Rogue drivers. They will take it to the bitter end, and I end up just giving up because they start to become a danger to themselves and everyone around them
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Old 09-08-24, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I was watching a video where a guy was roadtripping in an Escalade V which gets 16 MPG HWY lol, he said “you can get over 300 miles of highway range” LOL! Good lord.
If you lived where I lived, you could easily spend $300 a week driving an Escalade LoL
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
If you lived where I lived, you could easily spend $300 a week driving an Escalade LoL
So crazy lol
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Old 09-08-24, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I live in NorCal, and traffic is not so bad here, I drive against traffic commuting to work. Where I've driven the Mustang GT several times is in San Antonio Texas when I've gone to our office, these are rentals. BTW over the years of coming out here, I've rented Dodge Chargers, Cadillac CTS (Both 2.0L turbo and 3.6L V6), Toyota Sequoia, and everything down to a Nissan Versa, which I would say is the worst car I've ever driven. The commute to the office from my hotel is short, but in the evening when I go for dinner it's usually 10 miles or more each way, and the highways are big and wide open at night. And although gas is cheap out there, I end up spending almost $100 on gas when I get something like a GT.

Yeah, I consider anything in the 20's to be gas hogs . Even my Sienna, which averages maybe 25 mpg is a gas hog in my mind. You have to understand my reference point, my Model Y and Ioniq 5 averages 120 and my Polestar on a bad day averages 109. And with gas out here nearly $5 a gallon, gas hog=no good 🤣
Eh, gas is so cheap I tend to not care much. The main point of annoyance I have is having to refill often if a car drinks a lot.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Eh, gas is so cheap I tend to not care much. The main point of annoyance I have is having to refill often if a car drinks a lot.
Yeah, gas ain't cheap here, yesterday I passed Chevron near my house, $4.89 cash regular and $4.99 if you use credit card. But that said, if you gave me a choice of daily driving something like a fuel efficient Nissan Versa or an M2, M3 or M4 Comp that uses a lot of gas, I would happily go with option #2. As far as going to gas stations, my mindset has been totally reset, I charge daily at home, and the only car we fill up is our Sienna, but that's every 3 or 4 months, and I find that to be a hassle now
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Eh, gas is so cheap I tend to not care much. The main point of annoyance I have is having to refill often if a car drinks a lot.
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Yeah, gas ain't cheap here, yesterday I passed Chevron near my house, $4.89 cash regular and $4.99 if you use credit card. ...
two millionaires debating the price of gas.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
two millionaires debating the price of gas.
I'm not a millionaire, but even if I was, I would still debate the price of gas $4.89 a gallon is absolutely insane
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