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Old 09-10-24, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Again, you've never driven either car and I have owned both but please tell me more about how the car I own compares to the one I owned before it lol

Opinions are fine, but you are totally closed minded on this and have zero personal experience from which to form an opinion. Its really strange. You would never know there was a difference between the two cars.

My S580 gets 20% better fuel economy than my S560, and drives exactly the same if not better...what is the issue? Again I've owned both cars you've never driven either, so don't tell me what kind of fuel economy difference there is.

The 48v system is not only there for fuel economy, some of the car's new features most notably the eABC suspension require the 48v system.

These are my last two trips to WV, top was the S560 in late May, and bottom is the S580 in August...thats a significant fuel economy improvement for no tradeoff:



I will tell you whatever I want to, especially when you’re being dishonest plus you’re giving me the standard condescending SW “you don’t own it so what do you know?” You said so many times you got 30mpg with your old one. I can happily pull up quotes. My friend who hates it on his I've known since 1998. I trust his word too.

I don’t like hybrid stuff or electric motors, it doesn’t matter why and I don’t owe anyone any explanation. It’s an opinion. I wouldn’t want to deal with all that years down the line. Remember I keep cars for decades. You are also pro EV, I am not. EV=batteries. I’m not surprised you like it. My friend who owns one doesn’t.

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Old 09-10-24, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
That average speed though.
Haha that's funny 🤣 At least both are consistent, so you get an apples to apples comparison
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Old 09-10-24, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That may be the difference in the I6 and the V8. I’m amazed by how smooth it is.

I’ve actually started to leave it on. I’m having it coded this week, I will probably not code it off.
Code it to default to off, make it so you need to opt for it to activate so you aren't constantly dropping oil PSI to zero. It will help your bearings
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Old 09-10-24, 05:31 PM
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Is there no start/stop disable button in W223?

In W222 it’s right with the ignition.

I get having cars coded or whatever but it’s not a big deal to hit a dedicated button to disable it.
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Old 09-10-24, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I will tell you whatever I want to. You said so many times you got 30mpg with your old one. I can happily pull up quotes.
Its rounding. I always take a picture like that at the end of every trip, the S580 gets better mileage than the S560 for sure.

My friend who owns one doesn’t.
Sure he doesn't lol. If your friend hates the 48v system on his he is as strangely biased against it as you are. I own the car, there is zero difference. The powertrain operates exactly the same.

Originally Posted by AJT123
Is there no start/stop disable button in W223?

In W222 it’s right with the ignition.

I get having cars coded or whatever but it’s not a big deal to hit a dedicated button to disable it.
Of course there is a button, the button in the W222 is not right with the ignition its on the console, the button for the W223 is right below the ignition. Hitting the button every time is obnoxious.
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Old 09-10-24, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Is there no start/stop disable button in W223?

In W222 it’s right with the ignition.

I get having cars coded or whatever but it’s not a big deal to hit a dedicated button to disable it.
There is probably a function in the screen to turn it on or off, both my friends BMW'S you can disable start/stop with a button
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Old 09-10-24, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Code it to default to off, make it so you need to opt for it to activate so you aren't constantly dropping oil PSI to zero. It will help your bearings
I'm pretty sure with the 48V system it doesn't drop oil PSI to zero, thats one of the benefits over the start/stop on 12v systems.
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Old 09-10-24, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
There is probably a function in the screen to turn it on or off, both my friends BMW'S you can disable start/stop with a button
Its a button:

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its a button:

That's what I thought, wasn't sure about Mercedes
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The new BMWs you actually cannot turn it off...
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The new BMWs you actually cannot turn it off...
You mean permanently, or even temporary?
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Old 09-10-24, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
You mean permanently, or even temporary?
At all, no way to turn it off even temporarily. Thats how the ICE 7 Series are
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
That average speed though.
I drive faster than that pulling a trailer.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That may be the difference in the I6 and the V8. I’m amazed by how smooth it is.

I’ve actually started to leave it on. I’m having it coded this week, I will probably not code it off.
the actual mechanism itself is super smooth... it's like prius levels of seamlessness with how the engine fires up, i'm just talking about the delay from when you take your foot off the brake

a simple (or maybe not so simple lol) software optimization would be enough to make things right
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I drive faster than that pulling a trailer.
Not in DC traffic on 66 and the beltway you don't lol
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