General Car Conversation 2024 - part 2
#106
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Lexus Test Driver
#108
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#111
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#112
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Looks like it has been known for quite sometime. There is a class action lawsuit or proposed . Now the plug in Pacificas have a fire issue where owners have been told not to plug them in. And some ferry’s have banned them.
#113
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Earlier plug in Pacificas have always had sporadic fire issues, mine isn't included in that (up to 2021)
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#115
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This is what I mean... When you have a god awful engine like the Sienna, or in any vehicle... you're stuck with it every second you use the vehicle. Every time you hit the gas, every time you pull out in traffic, every time you are on the interstate.
These downsized four cylinders that are faster than the lovely engines they replaced... that's great that they have performance numbers to back it up.
It's living with an engine for 6 figure mileage that's the issue, who gives a flip if it can lay down similar or better numbers.
I want pleasantness and satisfaction.
These downsized four cylinders that are faster than the lovely engines they replaced... that's great that they have performance numbers to back it up.
It's living with an engine for 6 figure mileage that's the issue, who gives a flip if it can lay down similar or better numbers.
I want pleasantness and satisfaction.
#116
Lexus Fanatic
This is what I mean... When you have a god awful engine like the Sienna, or in any vehicle... you're stuck with it every second you use the vehicle. Every time you hit the gas, every time you pull out in traffic, every time you are on the interstate.
These downsized four cylinders that are faster than the lovely engines they replaced... that's great that they have performance numbers to back it up.
It's living with an engine for 6 figure mileage that's the issue, who gives a flip if it can lay down similar or better numbers.
I want pleasantness and satisfaction.
These downsized four cylinders that are faster than the lovely engines they replaced... that's great that they have performance numbers to back it up.
It's living with an engine for 6 figure mileage that's the issue, who gives a flip if it can lay down similar or better numbers.
I want pleasantness and satisfaction.
Once you get used to turbo power, NA 6 cyls like the 2GR seem slow because you need to get them over 4k RPM to get their power band. So even for me probably at this point I would rather have a turbo 4 than a NA V6.
#117
Lexus Champion
But there are many consumers to whom that doesn't matter. Lots of Siennas around with delighted owners, including my office admin. For them they care about the fuel economy and not really the feel and performance of the vehicle. Toyota has sought to zero in on those consumers and you can't really blame them.
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#118
Porsche had a 3.6L V6 with 295 lb ft @ 3,000 rpm. Must have been a long stroke/undersquare design to get peak torque at 3k. Probably felt better in daily driving.
#119
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#120
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It’s fine sure, But the gas Pacifica has better passing power without a doubt. I know I had two and I extensively test drove the Sienna. Even unloaded the Pacifica feels more powerful when merging and when passing at 70-80 MPH. That’s one area where the gas Pacifica also feels more powerful than my PHEV Pacifica.