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Old 09-12-24, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
There’s more to it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/x2Xm2hz12...Q9_XQ85uiIo-4l
I know him from building and racing cars/trucks.
https://youtube.com/shorts/4HfWnPR2l...fHCuMYarwgexnh
"cleetus" - real name lawrence garrett mitchell was on youtube WAY before (2009) he apparently got into racing (2022). his 'racing' is simply a way to have content for his youtube.

Cleetus McFarland - Wikipedia

just another phony redneck pleasing the proles with very noisy gimmicks and burnouts.

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A lot of people don't get british humor,
true. even i struggle with some of it now, especially the endless sarcasm.

One of the employees in our San Antonio office who is an old friend going back to 1998 is originally from Manchester, moved to North Carolina (worked for Glaxo), now lives in San Antonio. I learned a bunch of dialect from him over the years, like dodgy, a word he uses a lot 🤣
'dodgy' is a good word.

some phrases they use though i don't care for including "if i'm honest..." - why no, i'd prefer you to lie.
when they tell me "don't worry...": about whatever they're taken aback when i say "i don't worry."
my sister's constantly telling me what i 'should do". uh, no.

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The electric motors are what made the Mercedes so fast by giving it a boost
some irony in that statement.
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Old 09-12-24, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
some irony in that statement.
One day the "training wheels" will come off 🤣
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Old 09-12-24, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
I thought the M3P was going to win but certainly not a loss when considering price.

Mercedes...if they are going to make it so complex, atleast make it faster than a M3 with no electric motors / batteries. What benefit does it even have over the M3? Slower, sounds bad, heavy, complex.
The Mercedes/AMG badges clearly.....

I'm really curious how close a 340i would be with a tune only, the CS is almost non-sense for this type of test as a lot of it's vibe is track/handling and cool factor.
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Old 09-12-24, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I believe it was an inline 6 (M256). They should have gone with a 3.0L TT with mild hybrid. They are pushing way too much power through that 2.0L, I can see it breaking in a few years. And that Frankenstein drivetrain.....
Yes sir, I predict the fate of these engines is a short life. Lol

Too much HP per liter is not a good thing for longevity... Lol
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Old 09-12-24, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Yes sir, I predict the fate of these engines is a short life. Lol

Too much HP per liter is not a good thing for longevity... Lol
The BMWs have actually proven themselves well, the Mercedes engine on the other hand not so much. But hey, that's what leasing is for!
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Yes sir, I predict the fate of these engines is a short life. Lol

Too much HP per liter is not a good thing for longevity... Lol
It's trying to get "more for less". Ends up being more expensive and complicated
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Old 09-12-24, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Yes sir, I predict the fate of these engines is a short life. Lol

Too much HP per liter is not a good thing for longevity... Lol

There's little or no problem if you drive sensibly, use good oil and change it, and don't use a heavy right foot all the time....that's what wears out the turbo.
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Old 09-12-24, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
The BMWs have actually proven themselves well, the Mercedes engine on the other hand not so much. But hey, that's what leasing is for!
Exactly! Haha
There's cars you buy and then there's the ones you just lease and let go.. 🛸

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It's trying to get "more for less". Ends up being more expensive and complicated
It's the new thing.
"Less is more"
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Old 09-12-24, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS

And if you notice I don’t have a whole lot to say when it comes to repairing or modifying vehicles. Because it’s not something I know a whole lot about.

From what you told us about it, you learned quite a bit from your first Pacifica LOL...although the current one seems to be a lot better.
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Old 09-12-24, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Do they bounce back if they sense resistance? I hope so, I couldn't imagine if they didn't.

What about children, etc. would be my concern.
Surprisingly not really. They dont suck in hard enough to hurt your hand, but you kind of have to pull your hand up out of it while it snaps back in to the door. Just a silly design, total definition of form over function
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Old 09-12-24, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
The BMWs have actually proven themselves well, the Mercedes engine on the other hand not so much. But hey, that's what leasing is for!
I am watching this as I read your post

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Old 09-12-24, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Funny enough that Bel Air that was crashed weighs only 3600 pounds which is pretty much the same as a modern Camry, even though the Bel Air is ~210 inches long.
Interesting. I would have guessed a little more for the Bel Air. It goes to show the weight that all of the safety gear, amenities and options add to the overall weight.
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Old 09-12-24, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
There's little or no problem if you drive sensibly, use good oil and change it, and don't use a heavy right foot all the time....that's what wears out the turbo.
They're running 37 PSI of boost in that thing. To keep it alive they dropped the compression ratio to 9.0:1. Low compression plus a big turbo like that means turbo lag, which is why they have to tack on the hybrid system.

I could see these being reliability nightmares.
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Old 09-12-24, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtP04zGFA-I

I know many believe Lexus have lost their way...which I somewhat agree with, imo Mercedes has lost their way even more. Tesla doing Tesla things...for less than half the cost of either of these, it would be interesting to see a case study if a significant amount of buyers for these high performance compact cars consider / get a M3P over the Germans.
I can not believe how awful these cars sound, especially that MB. I bet they sell about 2 here in the USA. I've heard it before and it was awful, but more here.

That Benz sounds like some 1980s Hyundai revving... harrrrd pass. V8 coming back.
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Old 09-12-24, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I can not believe how awful these cars sound, especially that MB. I bet they sell about 2 here in the USA. I've heard it before and it was awful, but more here.

That Benz sounds like some 1980s Hyundai revving... harrrrd pass. V8 coming back.
Are you saying the M3 CS sounded bad as well? I've driven the M4 Comp (same engine) and it sounds AWESOME! And with it's almost supercar performance, the 3.0L TT I6 ain't going nowhere. No comment on the AMG
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