Striker223

Oh and they TOTALLY could have fit B58s in the truck engine bays.........Just imagine legions of 1000hp Tundras to compete with the fords!

HAHA! Who makes the reliable engines now? I left Toyota/Lexus for a reason, and the one thing they claimed to still have they really don't......if I'm driving a car that is behind the curve I at least demand it never break on me. My 460 is doing well but the RXs and LS430 didn't really wow me. The real question now is if it really was just a "machining debris" issue or if the bedplate is too weak and the inherent design needs to change/be updated.

Motorola

I bet LS500 and maybe GX550 owners are terrified right now for not being part of this recall. Even if they aren't individually affected this will absolutely demolish any resale value they have.

Hoovey689

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Good for Toyota to step up and replace them. Since they've identified the problem of debris from the manufacturing process, this should hopefully tighten their quality control moving forward.

FrankReynoldsCPA

Also hybrid owners. I thought the hybrid 3.4 is the same engine produced on the same line, just with an electric motor between it and the transmission?

I would be beyond livid if my truck ended up being down for weeks. The rollout of this program is going to be very drawn out. It takes the dealerships weeks to do a single engine replacement under normal workload. Are they going to end up cutting corners to try and turn these things around? Are owners going to be losing money with their trucks sitting at the dealership for weeks to months while long blocks are on backorder?

AJT123

It's a pretty bad situation all around for Toyota. I hear the turnaround for GM engine replacements is about 2 weeks, according to that Escalade owner I mentioned.

Striker223

Oh yeah, we have enough instances of LS500s blowing up on this forum that it was enough for me to be leery of this engine.

Motorola

You're right, though I've heard those weren't recalled because the electric motor is sufficient to at least get the trucks off the road if the engine does blow. All these new Tundras should still be covered by factory warranty.

If Toyota doesn't recall every vehicle with this engine and perform the same remedy, I have no doubt owners are going to get antsy and start filing some class actions (if they haven't already).

EDIT: Forgot the Sequoia uses the same engine too. That 100k is just the tip of the iceberg if every single V35A has to be replaced...

Striker223

Does the IMA style system allow movement of the car if the engine side is 100% locked solid?

SW17LS

Where have we seen LS500 engines blow up?

Motorola

It does have an EV-only mode under very specific circumstances.

Striker223

5th Gen chat, several people had engined replaced under warranty. It's one of the many things that drove me away from the car....

LeX2K

But that's an outlier Toyota's 3.5L TTV6 is a failure waiting to happen, all of them. I don't buy the excuse of debris, nope. I think they will revise the block and not tell anyone.

RNM GS3

Toyota needs to develop new Inline 6 turbo engine, even MB went back to inline 6s.
V6 will never be as strong or reliable.

The S58 engine in the current M2/3/4 is probably the best Inline 6 motor you can buy today. Makes incredible power and has been bulletproof from reliability standpoint.

LeX2K

Toyota made the M series I-6 engine from 1965–1993, cast iron block aluminum head. Then of course they followed up with the legendary JZ I'm absolutely baffled how they could toss such a long tradition in the trash.

SW17LS

Then why have we not seen widespread failures in the engine in the LS? This is a manufacturing issue not an engine design issue.