Japan's top automaker Toyota acknowledges more certification cheating and apologizes
#61
Big
Junk food is probably far worse
My gov in my province rolled back emissions testing for older cars. Diesel owners are lucky as the emissions on those cars is very expensive to fix.
p.s.
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Spoiler
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 08-05-24 at 06:53 PM.
#62
#65
Because us evil ICE owners need to be reminded how we're holding back society, of course.
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#67
Mexico's City's problem is not so much the amount of pollution, but, like the Los Angeles region, it sits under an inversion-bowl in the atmosphere that acts as a trap, does not allow much mixing or vertical currents of air, and prevents dispersion of what low-level pollution you have. No amount of regulation is going to be able to prevent that.
Not at all the case today, and the change isn't the result of magic.
#68
I find it hilarious that you choose LA as the closest comparison, and then try to claim that regulation can have no effect on pollution. In 20th century LA the air was so thick you could grab handfuls of it and collect it in a bag. This picture from 1958 shows several women unable to see due to the pain in their eyes, a gentleman wearing a gas mask to protect himself, and there is so much smog that you literally cannot see buildings a half-block away:
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Not at all the case today, and the change isn't the result of magic.
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Not at all the case today, and the change isn't the result of magic.
#69
I find it hilarious that you choose LA as the closest comparison, and then try to claim that regulation can have no effect on pollution. In 20th century LA the air was so thick you could grab handfuls of it and collect it in a bag. This picture from 1958 shows several women unable to see due to the pain in their eyes, a gentleman wearing a gas mask to protect himself, and there is so much smog that you literally cannot see buildings a half-block away:
Not at all the case today, and the change isn't the result of magic.
Not at all the case today, and the change isn't the result of magic.
And I find it even more hilarious that you seem to ignore the fact that, even with regulation, although not as bad as decades ago, LA still has arguably the worst air quality in the country.
Have a nice day.
#70
Smog would definitely ruin a nice day There is nothing hilarious about that
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#71
Air Quality Index only goes back so far, but 8-hour carbon monoxide has been used by regulating bodies for roughly the same reason. Saying LA has some of the worst air in the country is true, but ignores all of the work that has been done to improve it over the years.
#72
This is actually up from last week's value of 38 due to smoke from the wildfires.
The most polluted city in the country today is Winthrop, Washington at 165. Even my own distant suburb of Chicago is higher than LA, at 53. Out your way, Fairfax is at 57, and Reston at 61.
The picture I posted was probably 400+. What is your alternative explanation for how a city with this atmospheric inversion got from 400+ to 38 or 46?
#73
Not so much. Here is LA, today:
This is actually up from last week's value of 38 due to smoke from the wildfires.
The most polluted city in the country today is Winthrop, Washington at 165. Even my own distant suburb of Chicago is higher than LA, at 53. Out your way, Fairfax is at 57, and Reston at 61.
The picture I posted was probably 400+. What is your alternative explanation for how a city with this atmospheric inversion got from 400+ to 38 or 46?
This is actually up from last week's value of 38 due to smoke from the wildfires.
The most polluted city in the country today is Winthrop, Washington at 165. Even my own distant suburb of Chicago is higher than LA, at 53. Out your way, Fairfax is at 57, and Reston at 61.
The picture I posted was probably 400+. What is your alternative explanation for how a city with this atmospheric inversion got from 400+ to 38 or 46?
Also, putting in highways to move the traffic thru I think would help a lot too.
City planning is important too and for gosh sakes, plant some trees. 🤓
#74
For all those that don't care about either safety or emissions standards and don't care about breathing polluted air, good for you. Personally, I'm happy to take my Sienna in for a smog check every two years and do my part to keep our air clean, and I'm also happy every car I own has passed numerous crash and safety tests
#75
Here are the Ten most polluted cities, ranked in order. Six of the top seven are in California.....including the L.A. region. This list is effective April of this year.
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthie...ity-in-the-u-s
1 Bakersfield California
2 Visalia California
3 Fresno-Madera-Hanford California
4 Eugene-Springfield Oregon
5 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland California
6 Los Angeles-Long Beach California
7 Sacramento-Roseville California 8 Medford-Grants Pass Oregon
9 Phoenix-Mesa Arizona
0 Fairbanks Alaska
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthie...ity-in-the-u-s
10 Most Polluted Cities by Annual Particle Matter
RANK METROPOLITAN AREA STATE1 Bakersfield California
2 Visalia California
3 Fresno-Madera-Hanford California
4 Eugene-Springfield Oregon
5 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland California
6 Los Angeles-Long Beach California
7 Sacramento-Roseville California 8 Medford-Grants Pass Oregon
9 Phoenix-Mesa Arizona
0 Fairbanks Alaska