spwolf

Another problem is that this is 0.001% of Toyota warranty claims or vehicles sold. They are not used to it.
Toyota will refuse warranty if they know you tracked GT86 for instance. Or any of their cars. So people hide it.

Legal will not openly say they suspect you modified the vehicle either. So they will use some by the book excuse if they do think you went beyond what they expect. They probably also compare it first with existing claims or TSBs.

swajames

They sell this car as track ready. There is even a circuit edition. They can't wriggle out of warranty because you tracked a GR Corolla.

Built for the track. Ready for every day.

With heart-revving power to all four wheels, GR Corolla redefines your boundaries in the most thrilling way possible.

link13

The article does not say the first car was going 114 mph at the time of the fire incident. The article states that the vehicle sent a data packet to Toyota indicating that the car traveled at 114 mph and further states that the date and time of when that happened were not disclosed to the owner by Toyota. It doesn’t say whether he accepted the track day included in the purchase. If he did and the 114 mph occurred on that day, it is not an unreasonable speed on a closed circuit. The article is a bit shoddy because a real journalist would pursue these important details, but clicks > facts these days. Toyota is in the wrong here in my opinion and while I like many of their products and the company as a whole, I won’t shield them here.

I am not an attorney. However, I do read contracts before signing any. I don’t believe speeding is grounds to void a warranty and I don’t believe being insured while required by law lets the manufacturer off the hook either.

Toys4RJill

Manufacturers will do anything to deny warranty if they can while owners will do anything they can to try to make the manufacturer pay.



The first case is irrelevant. Insurance wrote off the car.



second car had no insurance. So good luck trying to get a warranty claim as the manufacturer will obviously deny a replacment

swajames

Some of the posts in this thread are bordering on the insane. Regardless, if a vehicle has a serious design issue, material defect and/or the manufacturer willfully or negligently sold product with such an issue or defect it doesn't make any difference whether the owner had insurance or not. In both cases the liability and requirement to remedy is on the manufacturer. If an insurer happened to pick up the tab in the interim, they are just going to look to subrogate to manufacturer to the greatest extent possible.

Toys4RJill

the first case there is no argument. An insurance appraiser deemed the car was a write off. Warranty cannot apply. End of story!

the second case, unless he paid cash which likely they didn’t. Someone owes money on the car either a bank or Toyota Finance. Seeing that the car burned to the ground on a road while he was driving without insurance…he is responsible as insurance won’t even give him the option to even look at it. Someone owes the money on the car and that is the owner.

There is no defect.

DaveGS4

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Striker223

See that shouldn't be an issue though, I hit 130-150 literally every single time I take one of the A8s out or to work and they never care about speeds like that. A car shouldn't blow up from a little 100+ operation and for crying out loud they advertise it as a track car lol!

AMIRZA786

Slow down my brother, slow down. You are missing so much at those speeds, and life is just too short 🤣

Striker223

Oh it's fine, they are backroads with literally not so much as a driveway for 2 miles so why not take 7 seconds to do a 60-130 lol! I'm not going max speed back there or at night unless I'm in the 12 so I can see deer on thermal haha!

Most of my drive is 65-105, nothing crazy

SW17LS

Thats not what that language means. That language means that any vehicle that is salvaged etc is not covered under the warranty after that happens. The fire here is what caused it to be totaled.

Lwerewolf

This is the typical highway speed over in the EU - except for a few countries that like to throw you in jail for 10-15 over - and even there sometimes. My '03 1.6 manual corolla's been doing 100mph (avg board speed 95, not kidding) for 2 hours straight at times here - no issues.

This is simply BS from Toyota. Not buying the "they can't make turbo engines" BS (like the is200t hasn't been around for decades), but not buying the "this doesn't deserve warranty cause it wasn't driven by a granny either" (hell, my mother does slightly more than that in her Yaris TS somewhat routinely).

Motorola

The GS200t had an absolute dog of an engine. Probably one of the worst engines ever made by Toyota/Lexus, so bad that Lexus killed it before they killed the GS.

The 4-bangers in the NX and RX aren't blowing up like the V35A but they've been similarly criticized for being underpowered, noisy, slow, and not having amazing fuel economy.

Lwerewolf

Yet it holds up to boost and doesn't spontaneously combust. A more recent example would be the 2.4l turbo (t24a-fts). Point is - they deserve no slack. Not that they'd deserve any if it was their first.

LeX2K

GS200t uses the 8AR-FTS no? This engine is still around.